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re: Tons of Auburn Fans in metro Atlanta
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:08 pm to TrussvilleTide
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:08 pm to TrussvilleTide
Proud to be called a cow college. Next?
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:09 pm to Poker Dough
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All of it is related to Hope dumbass, one of your own already said it. Why are you so worked up about this as a Gwinett Tech grad?
Yes, it all came from HOPE.
HOPE brought better students and higher rated professors to UGA relatively quickly. It worked because Metro Atlanta has so many students, that the number of good students who prefer a tuition free UGA education was so high that only great students could get in.
But Hope isn't new. It started in 1993... it's about to be 30 years old. It's impact was already realized in UGA's education system by 1995-1996.
Now, it's also important to note that UGA had been on an upward swing already when HOPE was implemented. Charles Knapp (UGA president from 1987-1997) had a lot to do with that. He helped create the HOPE scholarship, but even before that he greatly expanded UGA's academic research endeavors (and budget). On the flip side, he de-emphasized football which led to UGA being pretty horrible during that stretch. Some believe that is what led to him being replaced by Michael Addams. (who inserted himself into football related decisions, being the one to force the firing of Jim Donnan).
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:15 pm to deeprig9
Can I sit with you Saturday?
Nevermind, my tickets aren't in the upper deck. I am in section 102 where the mens bathroom has been leaking sewage across the concourse since the 80's. Only damn stadium in the SEC that has stairs going to the upper deck. fricked up place Athens!
Nevermind, my tickets aren't in the upper deck. I am in section 102 where the mens bathroom has been leaking sewage across the concourse since the 80's. Only damn stadium in the SEC that has stairs going to the upper deck. fricked up place Athens!
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:16 pm to AUFanInSoCal
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Why not go to other Georgia schools and then transfer to UGA with good grades. That would be my choice instead of paying out of school tuition.
Some try that route. Heck, that's what my wife did.
But there are also plenty of kids from families with some money who wanted "the real college experience" (which kids from Gwinnett Tech or Truett-McConnel don't get). They went to Auburn.
A few of them wanted to be vets or plant scientists... they went to Auburn on purpose.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:19 pm to DawginSC
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A few of them wanted to be vets ... they went to Auburn on purpose.
Because they couldnt get into UGA and follow the veterinary track there.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:20 pm to Poker Dough
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UGA has to help neighboring states. You're adorable UGA boy, don't ever change
Yep.
Did you know that counties bordering GA in Alabama, Florida, SC, TN and NC qualified for partial or full HOPE scholarship assistance back when I went to school? Not sure if it ever got changed, but yeah, Georgia actually did it's part to help neighboring states who's education system sucked. We knew those students would likely be looking for jobs in Atlanta anyway so we wanted to smarten them up.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:21 pm to BigTastey
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Only damn stadium in the SEC that has stairs going to the upper deck. fricked up place Athens!
There are elevators and escalators.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:22 pm to deeprig9
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Because they couldnt get into UGA and follow the veterinary track there.
Nah. Despite UGA having a good vet school, Auburn has a better one when I was in school. Just glanced at it now and it looks like UGA may have passed them there in the year since.
Probably because of HOPE again.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:29 pm to DawginSC
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UGA has to help neighboring states. You're adorable UGA boy, don't ever change
Yep.
Did you know that counties bordering GA in Alabama, Florida, SC, TN and NC qualified for partial or full HOPE scholarship assistance back when I went to school? Not sure if it ever got changed, but yeah, Georgia actually did it's part to help neighboring states who's education system sucked. We knew those students would likely be looking for jobs in Atlanta anyway so we wanted to smarten them up.
I know the UGA vet school holds out 10 or 15 slots each year specifically for students from South Carolina because there is no vet school in that state. They also hold out a few spots for some random northeastern state, I forget which one. Like Connecticut or something odd like that.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:29 pm to Irons Puppet
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No, Atlanta was the only place for a career for some of the tech grads. Now Huntsville is leaving Atlanta in the dust from that standpoint. Difference is Huntsville Tech giants don't want UGA grads.
Lololol….The number of people who move to Atlanta annually because of its immense economic engine is equal to roughly 1/5 of Huntsville’s population. Settle down.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:31 pm to deeprig9
Not reading this entire thread but a few comments:
- Auburn is an excellent school in a quaint, safe southern town
-UGA is an excellent school in a less quaint, less safe southern town
-UGA is more difficult for metro Atlanta kids seeking admission. It wasn’t this way 30 years ago before Hope
-Hope doesn’t make attending in Georgia “free”. My own child, who had a good but not great academic profile was denied admission to UGA (SAT was too low for a metro kid, imo). He has the Zell Miller flavor of Hope and attends another State University. I know it isn’t free because it’s costing me approximately 7,000 a semester for the required housing and meal plan.
-arguing the difference between UGA and AU is silly, they are fairly close to mirror images at this point
-personally, I didn’t want my son to attend either school. Not a matter of academics in the measurable sense, I wanted him somewhere more focused on undergrad teaching and less on research. He gets attention from profs at his school I don’t think he’d get at either place
- Auburn is an excellent school in a quaint, safe southern town
-UGA is an excellent school in a less quaint, less safe southern town
-UGA is more difficult for metro Atlanta kids seeking admission. It wasn’t this way 30 years ago before Hope
-Hope doesn’t make attending in Georgia “free”. My own child, who had a good but not great academic profile was denied admission to UGA (SAT was too low for a metro kid, imo). He has the Zell Miller flavor of Hope and attends another State University. I know it isn’t free because it’s costing me approximately 7,000 a semester for the required housing and meal plan.
-arguing the difference between UGA and AU is silly, they are fairly close to mirror images at this point
-personally, I didn’t want my son to attend either school. Not a matter of academics in the measurable sense, I wanted him somewhere more focused on undergrad teaching and less on research. He gets attention from profs at his school I don’t think he’d get at either place
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:32 pm to DawginSC
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Nah. Despite UGA having a good vet school, Auburn has a better one when I was in school. Just glanced at it now and it looks like UGA may have passed them there in the year since.
Probably because of HOPE again.
Nah, probably because about 10 years ago they built a completely new complex with all new state of the art shite and expanded their capabilities.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:41 pm to Irons Puppet
Corporations don’t move for real estate. If they did Alaska would would lead the nation in llc domiciles.
They leave for talent and desirability. I’m a ruralist myself but ATL has like the 3rd most Fortune 1000 companies in America.
Coke, Delta, UPS, CFA, Newell Rubbermaid, Equifax, Norfolk Southern, GA Pacific, NAPA, Home Depot, Southern Company, American Cancer Society, the CDC, NCR, CNN, Cox Communications, Aaron’s, Invesco, EarthLink, RaceTrac, Mercedes NA, Porche NA, & Turner Broadcasting among many others aren’t there because it sucks.
They leave for talent and desirability. I’m a ruralist myself but ATL has like the 3rd most Fortune 1000 companies in America.
Coke, Delta, UPS, CFA, Newell Rubbermaid, Equifax, Norfolk Southern, GA Pacific, NAPA, Home Depot, Southern Company, American Cancer Society, the CDC, NCR, CNN, Cox Communications, Aaron’s, Invesco, EarthLink, RaceTrac, Mercedes NA, Porche NA, & Turner Broadcasting among many others aren’t there because it sucks.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:44 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
Wrong , check out NJ and Corporate HQs. Taxes is the best indicator.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:49 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
HQ's in general is a useless metric. CNN for example is HQ in ATL, but the majority of their operations are in NYC. Another reason it is useless, is a company like Coke or Home Depot, they didn't move to Atlanta, they were founded in Atlanta, and are entrenched there, whether Atlanta sucks or not. Delta for example, is here only for the airport. Atlanta being a shithole or not has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:03 pm to Irons Puppet
Corporations require access to talent. Whether they were founded in the state and stayed or relocated they are where they are bc they require young professionals. They also require high option airports, and seek favorable corporate tax structure. You wouldn’t have the number of corporations in Atlanta if it wasn’t imminently desirable for young people. This is pretty self evident.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:05 pm to Irons Puppet
NJ headquarters are a proximity to NYC.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:09 pm to deeprig9
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Another reason it is useless, is a company like Coke or Home Depot, they didn't move to Atlanta, they were founded in Atlanta, and are entrenched there, whether Atlanta sucks or not. Delta for example, is here only for the airport. Atlanta being a shithole or not has nothing to do with it.
Big corporations can and do relocate if a city fails them. Atlanta is a growing, vibrant city. It's not for everyone. Crime often accompanies growth, although violent crime in Atlanta is a fraction of what it was when I moved here in 1988. Traffic can be atrocious. However, Atlanta is more affordable than most cities its size. There are attractions galore, including the world's largest aquarium and the college football hall of fame. Again, it's not for everyone. Some people prefer rual life. Sometimes, I have to escape to the mountains for a weekend. That's another positive about Atlanta. It's only an hour from the mountains. I like it here, and it's okay with me that it's not for everyone. In fact, I wish people would stop moving here. We're pretty full.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:10 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
They are there because NJ is a tax shelter. Same with GA or they are Corporations that started there.
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:13 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
How many major Universities are located within 200 mile? Not a GA asset. Huntsville is drawing talent from all over the country, not because of the Business School at UA.
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