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re: Tonight shows the playoff committee was a mistake

Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31652 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:12 pm to
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They’re about making money
What kind of salary are these committee members pulling? And does anyone even know who they are?
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21709 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:15 pm to
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By the time the playoffs come around it's going to be like every other year

Yup. 2020 was the only year it was obvious from the onset.

2020
Initial ranking: Alabama*, Notre Dame*, Clemson*, Ohio State*

Playoff field Alabama (1), Clemson (3), Ohio State (4), Notre Dame (2)

( no the asterisks are not for the season. They are initial poll top 4 teams that made playoffs; initial rankings of the playoff teams in parentheses)


2019
Initial ranking: Ohio State*, LSU*, Alabama, Penn State

Playoff field: LSU (2), Ohio State (1), Clemson (5), Oklahoma (9)

2018
Initial ranking: Alabama*, Clemson*, LSU, Notre Dame*

Playoff field: Alabama (1), Clemson (2), Notre Dame (4), Oklahoma (7)


2017
Initial ranking: Georgia*, Alabama*, Notre Dame, Clemson*

Playoff field: Clemson (4), Oklahoma (5), Georgia (1), Alabama (2)

2016
Initial ranking: Alabama*, Clemson*, Michigan, Texas A&M

Playoff field: Alabama (1), Ohio State (6), Clemson (2), Washington (5)


2015
Initial ranking: Clemson*, LSU, Ohio State, Alabama*

Playoff field: Clemson (1), Alabama (4), Michigan State (7), Oklahoma (15)


2014
Initial ranking: Miss. State, Florida State*, Auburn, Ole Miss

Playoff field: Alabama (6), Oregon (5), Florida State (2), Ohio State (16)


Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71178 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:17 pm to
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And does anyone even know who they are?

Changes every year. This year it’s

Gene Taylor, Kansas State athletics director

Joe Taylor, Vice President for Athletics and Community Wellness, Virginia Union University

John Urschel, former Penn State offensive lineman

Rod West, group president Entergy Corporation

Tyrone Willingham, former head coach at Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington

Paola Boivin, Arizona State professor

Tom Burman, Wyoming athletics director

Charlie Cobb, Georgia State athletics director

Boo Corrigan, NC State athletics director

Rick George, Colorado athletics director

Will Shields, former Nebraska offensive lineman

Mitch Barnhart, Kentucky athletics director

Gary Barta, Iowa athletics director (Chair)
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Jim From Tuscaloosa
Tuscaloosa
Member since Sep 2014
151 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:20 pm to
Look an Aubie that doesn’t know a darn thing about football. I’m shocked.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7676 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:32 pm to
Your call on air today was a gem
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:57 pm to
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Cincy should be in the top 4.

Nope. Cincy's SOS is ranked #101. Kudos to Cincy for scheduling & beating ND. But they also scheduled 3 weak non-conference opponents: FCS Murray St. (3-5), Miami-Ohio (4-4), Indy (2-6). To really earn a top-4 CFP ranking a G5 needs to schedule and beat several quality P5 teams.

Bama still has to play and beat LSU, Arky, Auburn and Georgia to get in. OSU has to play and beat Mich St, Mich and the B1G-West winner. Oregon & OU also have to win out to get in. But "Cincy "should be in the top 4" just for beating ND and winning the AAC?
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34741 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:06 pm to
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They need to go back to a BCS model with only computer models.


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Hell some years people not even associated with athletics are picking these teams. It’s madness


WTF? How do you come up with these two thoughts in the same post. You complain about people not associated with athletics and advocate for guys who couldn't tell a football from a vagina?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34192 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:26 pm to
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They need to go back to a BCS model with only computer models.


If they used the standard BCS model:



Computer rankings:



Based on the concept of a computer-only model, dropping the highest and lowest for each team (as per original BCS rules), you get (I did 8 teams - Georgia, Alabama, OSU, OU, Michigan, Cincinnati, Notre Dame and Mich State):

#1 Georgia (Avg 1)
#2 Michigan State (Avg 4.5)
#3 Oklahoma (Tie) (Avg 4.75)
#4 Michigan (Tie) (Avg 4.75)

#5 Cincinnati (Avg 5)
#6 Alabama (Avg 6)
#7 Ohio State (Avg 6.25)
#8 Notre Dame (Avg 6.75)
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
5775 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:52 pm to
You’re a bitch.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 11:20 pm to
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Go frick yourself. I don’t understand college football? I’ve followed college football for 40 years. And a playoff, a real playoff, could work. Just because you’re too dim witted to see it doesn’t mean shite.


You expand the playoffs, you kill the regular season importance and everything that has made college football great.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20052 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:00 am to
BCS
Georgia
Cincinnati
Oklahoma
Alabama
Michigan State
Ohio State
Michigan
Notre Dame
Oregon
Wake Forest
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:15 am to
If they ever use computers again, I hope they pick some that aren't trash.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26472 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:53 am to
It’s pretty simple. If Bama wins out and somehow beats Georgia they’re in. If they lose before then or to Georgia they’re out. It’s not a big deal. Only butthurt whiners care at this point.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:55 am to
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Bring back the BCS model


Oh no, we cant have that. LSU fans would have a hissy fit. So a typical day really
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 2:57 am to
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I’ve followed college football for 40 years


That doesnt mean a thing, though it clearly means a great deal to you.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29636 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:16 am to
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#1 Georgia (Avg 1)
#2 Michigan State (Avg 4.5)
#3 Oklahoma (Tie) (Avg 4.75)
#4 Michigan (Tie) (Avg 4.75)

#5 Cincinnati (Avg 5)
#6 Alabama (Avg 6)
#7 Ohio State (Avg 6.25)
#8 Notre Dame (Avg 6.75)




This is actually pretty spot on, IMO.


That is the one thing I always liked about the computers. They didn't care what name is on the front of the jersey.
Posted by Hang10
East of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2021
1126 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 3:44 am to
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When did "signature win" become part of determining the best teams?



what determines "best team"?

If it's the roster on paper, why play the season?

If actual results matter........bama does not have a signature win and has a bad loss. There are several teams who have a better resume than bama at this point in the season.


Those are just the facts.






Some people ought to think less!


Ole Miss was 6-0 top 10 team and Bama put a whupping on them. Miss St. was 4-2 and had caught fire with both their offense and defense.. they are ranked in the top 20 in the CFP'S initial rankings.. Bama should have left College Station with a win and undefeated still.. but, for whatever reason upsets happen. aTm is playing as good as anyone in the country at present time..
Miami has beaten 3 ranked teams.
The Tide beat the snot out of them. Tennessee has been improving and Bama made a couple of mental errors or else I doubt they score anything..fla was undefeated at 3-0 or 4-0 and ranked #10 I believe and we beat them in their house.. fla came out of that game with a lot of injuries.. it was a war of wills and Bama prevailed!


Good enough for ya? El Comprehende?
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
5755 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:29 am to
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only solution is a true playoff where teams play their way in on the field. Name doesn’t matter, “style points” don’t matter, only thing that matters is wins and losses. Until we get this, FBS college football, the greatest sport in the world, will forever be a glorified beauty pageant.


I agree with the premise, but you have to have more equivalent scheduling. There are 32 NFL teams, how many are in FBS? Cincy is the same as UCF from a few years ago. A predominantly cupcake schedule shouldn't put a team in the cfp.


All of this said, I could see UGA, MSU, OU, and Oregon as the first 4. It will work itself out by selection day.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29636 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:45 am to
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Ole Miss was 6-0 top 10 team and Bama put a whupping on them. Miss St. was 4-2 and had caught fire with both their offense and defense.. they are ranked in the top 20 in the CFP'S initial rankings.. Bama should have left College Station with a win and undefeated still.. but, for whatever reason upsets happen. aTm is playing as good as anyone in the country at present time..
Miami has beaten 3 ranked teams.
The Tide beat the snot out of them. Tennessee has been improving and Bama made a couple of mental errors or else I doubt they score anything..fla was undefeated at 3-0 or 4-0 and ranked #10 I believe and we beat them in their house.. fla came out of that game with a lot of injuries.. it was a war of wills and Bama prevailed!


Good enough for ya? El Comprehende?




now do the resumes of the next three teams behind them.


quote:

Ole Miss was 6-0 top 10 team and Bama put a whupping on them.


#13 Auburn just did the same thing to them.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 4:59 am to
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It’s nothing more than a glorified poll, no different than the AP or Coaches poll. You still have the same thing, people deciding who they think belongs where. It’s asinine we still choose the champion of the world’s greatest sport in the same manner beauty pageants are decided.




Here we go, AGAIN! With a quarter of the season to go and all of November mayhem in front of us, we are about to get 20 pages of the playoff committee's reckless behavior as if this were the actual teams to get in. Bloody November is upon us people.

No one would be satisfied with the finished product when so much of the season is yet to play out? Why do stupid fans, who have the patience of a 2-year-old, continue to emote so hard in the moment?
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