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Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:42 pm to LA kid but AU fan
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:42 pm to LA kid but AU fan
I posted with no comment. This was a CBS story defending his actions. Why are some of you upset with that?
It is what it is.
COMMENT: Yes it looks bad, but Alabama is above the law, Bama fan knows this and it is what it is.
It is what it is.
COMMENT: Yes it looks bad, but Alabama is above the law, Bama fan knows this and it is what it is.
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:43 pm to Funky Tide 8
I understand that, but I don't see how anyone could defend this guy with a straight face.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:53 pm to Smoke7024
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:16 pm to Irons Puppet
Whoever wrote is is only a violation if the player receives money is ignorant. Not surprised considering it is al.com, but still it is poor reporting or reading comprehension.
The relevant bylaw, 12.5.2.1 uses the word or. When it says remuneration OR to promote a commercial business in ANY way.
I would contend the use of the autograph stuff is helping to promote ole toms business.
But still, doesn't matter. I think it is pretty clear from the ncaas inaction the first time they won't act unless the first part of the bylaw is broken, payment, and there is evidence of such, which there never will be.
Everyone knows what's up, nothing gonna come of it tho.
The relevant bylaw, 12.5.2.1 uses the word or. When it says remuneration OR to promote a commercial business in ANY way.
I would contend the use of the autograph stuff is helping to promote ole toms business.
But still, doesn't matter. I think it is pretty clear from the ncaas inaction the first time they won't act unless the first part of the bylaw is broken, payment, and there is evidence of such, which there never will be.
Everyone knows what's up, nothing gonna come of it tho.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:24 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Could you imagine if ole Tom started singing? Bama would be so fricked. Bye bye to sabans titles.
Titles are overrated anyway....right....guy? It's Saben anyway dumby.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:26 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
It's clearly a way of providing extra benefits to certain players and not just suits. Again, who would hang out with a middle-aged man for small change. It will never be proven because it's well known to the compliance office and the university. If nothing was done then, nothing will be done this time. Pity that one program can keep on breaking the rules just because they have the NCAA turning a blind eye and others have to follow the rules to the letter.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:29 pm to tampajoe
Ncaa doesn't want the mess right now and especially didn't the first time around. If you follow it through to it's conclusion, it would be ugly. If you say the bylaw was violated the first time around, you at looking at at least one vacated title in 2011. Bama would have okayd inelligible players which would mean vacated games.
Long story short, the ncaa doesn't want the embarrassment.
Anyway, that is it from me on the subject tonight.
Long story short, the ncaa doesn't want the embarrassment.
Anyway, that is it from me on the subject tonight.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:30 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
ITAT bitch
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:33 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I realize that it is against the rules to promote a business and I agree that looks like that line is dangerously close to being crossed by the players in question. I've just never heard of any school ever being sanctioned for that part of the rule. It is almost always due to players getting benefits for the autographs or promotions.
Having said that, I wouldn't write off one of our jock sniffing idiot hangers on like this store owner or one of our clueless players getting caught bartering services for benefits. I wouldn't write off you ultimately getting to rub one off over a major violation at some point. You and other Auburn fans have an awfully short memory with how the NCAA usually treats us in these situations.
Having said that, I wouldn't write off one of our jock sniffing idiot hangers on like this store owner or one of our clueless players getting caught bartering services for benefits. I wouldn't write off you ultimately getting to rub one off over a major violation at some point. You and other Auburn fans have an awfully short memory with how the NCAA usually treats us in these situations.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:37 pm to Govt Tide
Agree with everything you said but I think you guys are fine. Not gonna be a papertrail.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I'm out too. Yet the NCAA investigated AU when the bammers got suspicious that a Montgomery clothing store owner gave Cam a discount for the Heisman awards. Glass houses.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 9:47 pm to Govt Tide
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I realize that it is against the rules to promote a business and I agree that looks like that line is dangerously close to being crossed by the players in question. I've just never heard of any school ever being sanctioned for that part of the rule. It is almost always due to players getting benefits for the autographs or promotions.
Manziel wasn't suspended for being paid (which was never proven). He was suspended for signing autographs when he knew or should have known that they would be sold.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 10:23 pm to finestfirst79
Does anyone know why players hang out with this guy? I've never heard that basic questioned answered.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:01 pm to AUX3
No one cares but auburn fans and clay. 
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:15 pm to Funky Tide 8
Guy is a scum bag and the University has disavowed him.
No self respecting Alabama fan should give him any business of any kind.
Guy doesn't give a shite about anything than making a quick buck or two and doesn't care who the hell he screws over to do so.
No self respecting Alabama fan should give him any business of any kind.
Guy doesn't give a shite about anything than making a quick buck or two and doesn't care who the hell he screws over to do so.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:17 pm to IAmReality
Cam got money, Manziel got money, Fluker got money, etc.
Anyone fanbase trying to be holier than thou is hillarious.
Anyone fanbase trying to be holier than thou is hillarious.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 1/16/14 at 11:18 pm to allin2010
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:31 am to IAmReality
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Cam got money, Manziel got money, Fluker got money, etc
which one is different?
No proof whatsoever (although they looked a long time) that Cam or his father ever took money from anyone.
No proof whatsoever (although he was investigated after the bammer whistleblower turned him in) that Manziel took money from autographs.
Proof (money trail, confession) that Fluker was given money by a coach - a coach now. Although it was called a loan.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:31 am to VVega
Bama is not going to go on probation for this clay needs to just give up on this story and get a life. I don't understand why this guy is so fixated on getting Alabama in trouble.
Posted on 1/17/14 at 12:34 am to IAmReality
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Guy is a scum bag and the University has disavowed him.
No self respecting Alabama fan should give him any business of any kind.
Guy doesn't give a shite about anything than making a quick buck or two and doesn't care who the hell he screws over to do so.
This guy gets it.
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