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re: This can't be right, can it?

Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:07 pm to
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Vegas is wrong all the time.


True but they’re right all the time too. More than anyone else.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:10 pm to
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True but they’re right all the time too. More than anyone else.
Not really. They set a line. They rarely hit the number. Just because some bet one side and others bet the other doesn't make Vegas correct. Look at LSU, GT, ND and Vandy yesterday.
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:10 pm to
You are right. I follow 5 polls in college football, Massey, Saragin, FPI, AP, and Coaches. All still have Texas at 7 or 8 after what I have seen, they should be in the teens.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 7:17 pm to
ESPN had LSU losing at Clemson also.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
27987 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:06 pm to
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After the natty game



They just hate LSU kidding kidding.

I know they're off and maybe I used a bad source but Vegas' line for that game has Vandy as the favorite. If it was in BR, Vandy would still be a favorite.

My point (and apologies to LSU fans if my point was offensive) is why is a team ranked so high while someone favored to beat them is ranked so low?

Certainly I could have used other examples in the same rankings but this one did stand out the most.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65769 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:11 pm to
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That Clemson win looks a lot different than it did a couple weeks ago and there are fundamental issues on both sides of the ball




What are the fundamental issues on the defensive side of the ball?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:21 pm to
Well... smart LSU fans are looking at SLU and work out the run game, the worry about ole piss. After that it's uscE... so vandy will have to wait.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19881 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:22 pm to
The defense is ahead of the offense but the UF offense despite all the malfunctions at QB (5 ints) was out-gaining your team significantly for much of the game.

I do think you still have a couple guys who are vulnerable but the defense is much improved from last year.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65769 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:32 pm to
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The defense is ahead of the offense but the UF offense despite all the malfunctions at QB (5 ints) was out-gaining your team significantly for much of the game


They weren't scoring though.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49493 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:37 pm to
Real Vanderbilt 2019 vibes right now

Here and the tiger rant
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19881 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:41 pm to
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They weren't scoring though.

Absolutely true.

But it’s also true they had a TD called back and absent a generational meltdown would’ve had a totally different from an outcome standpoint.

Y’all deserve credit for forcing the turnovers though don’t get me wrong.

We were talking about whether your team is ready to be a top 3 team, that’s a high standard.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65769 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:43 pm to
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But it’s also true they had a TD called back and absent a generational meltdown would’ve had a totally different from an outcome standpoint.


I've never understood this take.

They literally only scored the touchdown because they held the guy pass rushing

This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49493 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:45 pm to
There was an Ole Miss fan when LF7 went berserk on them that said if not for 5 or so carries they would’ve beaten the shite out of us

Similar vibes
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Nonetheless shouldn't Vandy be ranked higher than they are? Should LSU be #3?


Poll inertia is a hell of a drug.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19881 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:50 pm to
You realize the coverage guy had blown his assignment right? The receiver was wide open.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21650 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:53 pm to
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nobody knows sports outcomes as well as Vegas does

I haven't seen the line, so maybe... maybe not.

But, for certain, you misunderstand the Vegas Braintrust that keeps them in business.

They aren't predicting outcomes of the event. They are producing lines to generate balanced betting based on the anticipation of bettors by kickoff.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22707 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

quote:

That Clemson win looks a lot different than it did a couple weeks ago and there are fundamental issues on both sides of the ball






What are the fundamental issues on the defensive side of the ball?
I'm curious about this also.

I think LSU might legit have the best defense in college football this season. There's no holes, good depth, and you have a couple difference makers at every level.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
65769 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:01 pm to
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You realize the coverage guy had blown his assignment right? The receiver was wide open.


Sure.

And Lagway gets sacked if they aren't holding, and even if they miss him, he doesn't have time to make the throw.

Your premise is like saying we tackle every receiver on a 4th down pass play and then say we had them stopped if they don't call PI.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49493 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:07 pm to
If the entire LSU team would’ve died during the game then Florida would’ve won
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19881 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 9:11 pm to
I was asked to provide examples of issues on defense.

I’ve provided a number of them.

If you want to assume you have a championship level defense without vulnerabilities after getting outgained by a team that threw 5 picks and had numerous other big play opportunities coming off a 16 pt offensive night against a USF team that just lost 42-14 to Miami feel free, I’m not here to argue with you as you clearly have your mind made up.
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