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re: The "you already lost to LSU" argument

Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22231 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:22 am to
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Look at it from our perspective. You sit at home resting and watching film, we have to play UGA. We're being punished for beating you in your house.



Sure, it sucks for you. But college football has never been fair.

If you don't want to do it, see if you can give your spot to another team.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18451 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:23 am to
The system, BCS, is to allow the top 2 teams in the nation to play for the national championship. And even though LSU did beat Alabama in the regular season, no other team has shown that they are better than Alabama. So therefore, Alabama is still considered the 2nd best team in the nation.

The other teams did have a chance to be one of the top two teams but they all got beat by lesser teams. Alabama has only been beaten by the top team in the nation.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:23 am to
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If you don't want to do it, see if you can give your spot to another team.



you pussies would want nothing more.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22450 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:24 am to
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Look at it from our perspective. You sit at home resting and watching film, we have to play UGA.


I've never said I would want to play LSU again had we won, I wouldn't. That doesn't change the fact that it would happen and my "want" would be irrelevant. The BCS is about getting the top two teams in the country on the field, doesn't matter if they've already played, what conference, what might be fair to one team, etc. Just about the top two.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25960 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:25 am to
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Look at it from our perspective. You sit at home resting and watching film, we have to play UGA. We're being punished for beating you in your house.


Sure, it sucks for you. But college football has never been fair.

If you don't want to do it, see if you can give your spot to another team.



Read this as, sure it isn't fair and doesn't make sense, but it is Bama so the unfairness is excused in this one instance.

Not picking on you, but you have to admit that this makes absolutely no sense. It cannot be justified so you rightly have to say it isn't fair and life isn't either. The voters may choose to make it fair by hopping Alabama. That is a real concern and I think the part of this that makes the rematch scenario the most problematic for voters. They may have their decision made for them if OSU loses, but if OSU is hanging out there, I think it is a real concern for Bama re: rematch.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:25 am to
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no other team has shown that they are better than Alabama
because you lost by the least amount of points to the #1 team in the nation ,or your strength of schedule?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75268 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:26 am to
Pats/Giants does not apply. The Giants went through a vetting process called the playoffs to EARN their way in to the SB. They didn't fall arse-backwards into it like bammer.

And, LSU fans being labeled "self centered" by a fan base who supports a teaam that invented 7 championships is laughable. Oh, hey, does Esso still put out college football poll? Maybe you can claim that championship if you don't make it to N.O.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9461 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:27 am to
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But let's not pretend that the "you already lost to Bama" arguement wouldn't exist if the shoe were on the other foot right now.


I don't deny that it would be there I just wonder if Alabama fans would argue as ferociously against a rematch. Bama fans can play that game and turn it around on LSU fans too. In fact, I believe LSU would be EXACTLY where Alabama is now (#2) if they lost 9-6 to Alabama on Nov 5th.

That may be the better question. Do LSU fans honestly think that they wouldn't be in Alabama's current position if they had LOST 9-6 on Nov 5th??? I'm convinced you'd be #2 right now if the game had gone that way.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25960 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
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That may be the better question. Do LSU fans honestly think that they wouldn't be in Alabama's current position if they had LOST 9-6 on Nov 5th??? I'm convinced you'd be #2 right now if the game had gone that way.


Would you feel differently if Michael Ford hadn't stepped out and we won 13-6?
Posted by breeze
Member since Jan 2011
465 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
The primary objective of the BCS, the reason it exists, is to match up the two best teams in college football for a final NC game.

The one year this might actually occur and it is bcs chaos... a melt down. The irony is thick.

Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
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I don't deny that it would be there I just wonder if Alabama fans would argue as ferociously against a rematch. Bama fans can play that game and turn it around on LSU fans too. In fact, I believe LSU would be EXACTLY where Alabama is now (#2) if they lost 9-6 to Alabama on Nov 5th.

That may be the better question. Do LSU fans honestly think that they wouldn't be in Alabama's current position if they had LOST 9-6 on Nov 5th??? I'm convinced you'd be #2 right now if the game had gone that way.

so this is your reasoning to want a rematch.

That,LSU would do it too
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22231 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
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Read this as, sure it isn't fair and doesn't make sense, but it is Bama so the unfairness is excused in this one instance.


No, read this as, who deserves to play for a NC ahead of Bama?

We don't have a playoff.

I was vocal about not thinking we should get a rematch. But then everybody ahead of us that had a case shite the bed.

NOW it wouldn't be fair to BAMA to let a shite team play for the title just because LSU has beaten them once. One loss teams make it to the NC all the time. Why is it better for that one loss team to have lost to a lesser team than the #1 team in the country?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:29 am to
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I don't deny that it would be there I just wonder if Alabama fans would argue as ferociously against a rematch.


Of course they would,at least the Alabama posters on the SEC Rant would.

BTW, I think Alabama is the #2 team. But if the shoe were on the other foot LSU fans here would never hear the end of wanting a rematch against a team that had already beaten us.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:30 am to
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Tell me,how many times has a team from the same division had to beat a team twice.


I'll wait.


Tell me how many times before 2007 - or since - a two loss team won the national championship.


I'll wait.


Your argument is just as pointless as the one I just posed. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. No rule to prevent a 2 loss team from playing for it all, just as there is no rule requiring you be a conference champ to play for it all.

It is just a weird year, dude. You know that had LSU lost in T-town and then found themselves in Bama's position you'd agree that Bama & LSU are the two best teams and you'd be adamant about a rematch
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9461 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:32 am to
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Would you feel differently if Michael Ford hadn't stepped out and we won 13-6?


Not at all, it would still be a 1 score loss in overtime to the #1 team. I wouldn't feel any differently right now if Alabama would have won by a touchdown on Nov 5th either as there is no possible way that LSU wouldn't be #2 right now given the upsets the last 2 weeks.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105581 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:32 am to
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The you already lost to lsu FACT


Fixed it for you. Raw todd
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:32 am to
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Tell me how many times before 2007 - or since - a two loss team won the national championship.


I'll wait.


Jesus tap dancing Christ you are just full of fail.

When has anyone won a BCS Championship without winning their division?

quote:

Your argument is just as pointless as the one I just posed.


See my question and revise this.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:32 am to
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The BCS is set up to pit 1vs2, nothing else. That is what will happen, no arguments.
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Bookmarked for when bama doesn't get into the big game


You're a bit slow huh? I stated the BCS is set up to match 1vs2, the same every year. Nothing to do with Bama and LSU. This year will be no different, that is 100% guaranteed, the 1 and 2 will be the teams playing. If it is not Bama, so be it.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22231 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:32 am to
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But if the shoe were on the other foot LSU fans here would never hear the end of wanting a rematch against a team that had already beaten us.



There would be some, but not as many as there are LSU fans. The truth is, a lot of LSU fans have an inferiority complex and were ecstatic that they had finally one up-ed Bama. Now, they're afraid Bama might take it back.

Not all of you are that way, but you know that it's true about many of these Rantards.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15239 posts
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:33 am to
Can two teams from the same division in the NFL play in the Superbowl?

In a playoff system it is one and done

So you think it is fair for LSU to have to play you twice, beat you twice- play an extra game in the SEC championship, win the west, win the SEC

all the while gumps sit at home and watch tv?

Gump thinking there
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