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re: The truth about Beamer and South Carolina
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:55 am to flagshipuniversity
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:55 am to flagshipuniversity
I would fire him yesterday and get that guy at Liberty
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:55 am to RoyalAir
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Stop living in SC, go back to Ohio, and you won't have to hear about it.
Sounds like your politicians need to do a better job of policing the border
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:56 am to flagshipuniversity
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...and their greatest passion is beating Clemson...
I love that and honestly if we go 1-10 with the 1 being the Gators I'm good with it. Everything else is gravy. But I'm old and in a minority I'm sure.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:04 am to RoyalAir
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Tanner is gone from the AD chair. Hired some slapdick at TCU to replace him last spring.
Problem is Donati whiffed on the baseball coaching change in the spring, and may need a basketball coach, too. He's inherited a dysfunctional program all the way around. Tanner paying dividends all over the place.
Thanks for the context I guess I missed it.... and yeah dude definitely has an uphill battle to fight in the big 3 sports. I just remember Tanner hiring Mainieri last year and the debacle that ensued didn't realize you finally fixed the Tanner problem.
Good luck! I want SCar back in Omaha
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:11 am to Pimphand
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want SCar back in Omaha
I don't think I'll live long enough to see us be competitive in baseball ever again.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:13 am to Wolfhound45
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Wolfhound45
If Tanner were still here I could see that happening easily.
Now if this current AD does this I will no longer be a fan.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:35 am to Lonnie Utah
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So when Georgia fans like you sit back and take shots at our program,
Lonnie. I'm not taking any shots at your program. I love SC and the people. Think you deserve better and wish you come to see better results from your program. Sorry if you feel I am being derogatory. It's truly not my intent. Just saying IMHO the fanbase isn't as rabid as UGA, Bama, and a few more. USCe fans from what I have witnessed, which is a lot given my years in SC, are more forgiving with regards to football losses on a whole, unless it is Clemson.
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Metro Atlanta alone has more people than the entire state of South Carolina, which means Georgia ...
Same could be said regarding Alabama, but again, if a Bama coach just pulled what Beamer did, I honestly don't think he's employeed today regardless of the $$$. Just my .02 cents and I'm not gonna sink into a debate. We can agree to disagree and I DO wish USCe and their fans the best. Great people. Great State.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:43 am to SemperFiDawg
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Just saying IMHO the fanbase isn't as rabid as UGA, Bama, and a few more.
That's Crap. Show me another fanbase that had a 21 game losing streak yet still had 21 straight sellouts at the same time? Name ONE. (You can't) Proof positive that we want it worse than ANYBODY. But hope in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fill up first. As stated before, your program has built in advantages that ours doesn't. THAT's the real difference between UGA/Bama and SC. It AIN'T how passionate the fans are. (I'll give you UGA fans are more rabid than SC fans. I'd recommend going to get you rabies shots...)
Looks it's easy to pull for a team that's good. It's hard to pull for one that's bad. Watch UGA go on a losing streak and lets see how UGA fans fair.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:44 am to flagshipuniversity
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I went to South Carolina so I am not a band wagon fan.
I never accused you of being one.
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you are delusional if you think this is the time to replace Beamer
Not really. This isn’t college football of pre-2020. The transfer portal has completely changed the landscape. No longer does anyone feel the need to be committed to anything but themselves. To Beamer’s credit, he understood this early on and has used the portal to his advantage.
Now that leads me to this, he isn’t the only one who understands this. Considering this massive shift there could be someone out there who should be given a chance to show they can handle this climate and organize a great staff around them. We have seen Beamer isn’t capable (of an offensive staff anyway).
Shula to me was the straw that broke the camel’s back. He went and hired one of his own to be on his staff(nepobaby), and when a more hands-on position came open he gave it to him, even though he has NEVER accomplished anything in his coaching career (Cam doesn’t count, that was circumstance he just happened to be that position coach at that time).
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He doesn't call the plays either...
Funny how the offense was called literally the same it has been all season vs aTm under a “new” play caller. The first half yes, slightly more aggressive and somewhat spread out. The second half looked all too familiar. Bunching receivers and running routes to the sideline to bringing in Faison to run up the middle. I can’t convince myself he didn’t have total influence on the play calling.
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The Coastal game won't have an effect one way or the other
Not if they lose, which again is unlikely, but not impossible. I hope it is something that happens.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:44 am to RoyalAir
In hindsight you are exactly right. I don't think the rate-limiting factor with SC is the recruits. On paper everyone had you highly ranked heading into the season based mostly on your personnel. It does appear the bad OC hire played a huge role in how the season turned out. Ultimately that falls on the HC no matter which school you're talking about.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:03 am to TiptonInSC
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:03 am to Lonnie Utah
I didn't say your fans were apathetic toward the program. They certainly aren't. I didn't say they don't want to win. They do. I said they aren't as rabid as a few other fanbases. Maybe it's due to all the let-downs they've endured they've come to expect less: NOT WANT less, but expect less. There's a huge difference in the two. When UGA fired Richt it marked a sea change in mentality and shocked much of the fan base including myself. Most of us were still in the "wanting" process. Luckily the PTB were no longer satisfied with "wanting" but "expected" NCs. They made the move to Smart and eventually pulled the fanbase with them. Now the UGA fanbase "expects" to win. Again, just my 02, but USCe has not made that philosophical jump. They are in many ways the mirror image of the UGA fanbase during the Richt years.
I may be 100% wrong on every thing I typed, but that's my perspective. Again, best wishes going forward.
I may be 100% wrong on every thing I typed, but that's my perspective. Again, best wishes going forward.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:05 am to SemperFiDawg
I must admit I was shocked at some of the play calling in the 2nd half. You nailed it on the OC incompetence.
I had already come to grips with A&M losing this game...1) because I had never seen a comeback from this big a deficit in all my years (I'm an old)
and 2) I knew that A&M would have to pitch a shut out in the 2nd half and was certainly not confident with the way Sellers and your other weapons were playing.
This was not about the players, you have NFL talent on this roster on both sides of the ball. This was strictly coaching and poor leadership....and, as others have said, there are at least a dozen programs that would have fired Beamer before he left the building that night. I realize it is a horrible time to be looking for a coach. I feel for players and fans of the program.
I had already come to grips with A&M losing this game...1) because I had never seen a comeback from this big a deficit in all my years (I'm an old)
and 2) I knew that A&M would have to pitch a shut out in the 2nd half and was certainly not confident with the way Sellers and your other weapons were playing.
This was not about the players, you have NFL talent on this roster on both sides of the ball. This was strictly coaching and poor leadership....and, as others have said, there are at least a dozen programs that would have fired Beamer before he left the building that night. I realize it is a horrible time to be looking for a coach. I feel for players and fans of the program.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:05 am to Soonerd78
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Here is the truth . South Carolina simply doesn’t have the tradition most sec schools have … you guys want what you can’t have
You couldn't be more wrong.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:15 am to flagshipuniversity
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Beamer is a likeable person
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:17 am to Houag80
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You nailed it on the OC incompetence.
As bad as it was, I can give the Mike Furrey a pass. It was the dudes first game calling plays as an OC. I told my parents after the game, it was like A&M adjusted and we ran out of plays in the playbook. We kept calling the same ones over and over.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:19 am to RoyalAir
quote:As a Liberty graduate (and fan) he is (unfortunately) on thin ice due to two disastrous seasons (relatively speaking) back to back. But I love him as a head coach. You might be able to hire him away right now. He is a man of character and integrity. Proud of how he represents our university.
Jamey Chadwell
Since I joked with you USCe fans earlier, I will make amends
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:22 am to SemperFiDawg
South Carolina has plenty of history in the conference but they don’t have the original membership. I’ve seen them have very good seasons when Lou Holtz (an Ohioan) and Ryan Brewer (another Ohioan) beat the Buckeyes in 2001 in a bowl game down in Florida. Which is why I find it strange that some of the posters on this board have such animosity to Ohio. Was it the capture of Columbia?
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:26 am to Houag80
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This was not about the players, you have NFL talent on this roster on both sides of the ball. This was strictly coaching and poor leadership
Exactly. Beamer is a very good Recruiting Coordinator - certainly the best we've ever had. But he's a pretty horrible gameday coach. Elko and Klein ran circles around him in the second half. Just like DeBoer. Just like Drink. Just like Kiffin.
When talent is equal, or even moderately close to equal, coaching wins. And there's not a game this season where Beamer outcoached his opponent. The end of the first half was a sterling example. First and goal from the 9, and you had all 3 timeouts with around 19 seconds left. That should have been three shots to the end zone, settle for three. Poor planning made a kick necessary on 3rd down.
Was that the difference in the game? No, of course not. But it was an unforced error in a season full of them.
Posted on 11/17/25 at 11:30 am to flagshipuniversity
quote:Gonna stop you right there
Beamer is a likeable person
I replied before reading all the other replies. Beaten to the punch
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 11:33 am
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