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re: The slowdown rule does NOT affect only a couple of plays per game
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:23 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:23 pm to pvilleguru
I also don't believe that you have to exit the field on your own sideline.
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:23 pm to lsupride87
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Because it isnt against the rules:...
Thanks. I was ignorant of this. I've always thought that looked really weird seeing all the linemen suddenly stand up and look at the sideline and have wondered why it wasn't a penalty.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:42 pm to pvilleguru
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I also don't believe that you have to exit the field on your own sideline.
Yes, they do. A replaced player must depart at the sideline nearest his team area and proceed to his team area. No exceptions
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:51 pm to narddogg81
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offense already had the advantage of having the ball and knowing what the play is, defense has the advantage of not having to adhere to motion rules. There should be balancing advantages and disadvantages. Problem is all the recent rules put defenses at a disadvantage with nothing to compensate.
The defense has far more advantages than the offense pre snap, it's a fact.
Y'all are down right hilarious with the justifications.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:52 pm to arrakis
quote:I've seen a few cases where an opposing player was stuck on the opposite sideline for a play.
Yes, they do. A replaced player must depart at the sideline nearest his team area and proceed to his team area. No exceptions
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:54 pm to pvilleguru
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Yes, I do know that's why they do it. there's still time to run off the field and get a new guy on. If the defender is too much of a fat arse to get off the field or be on the field for 3 straight plays, then he shouldn't be on the field to start with.
It's pretty funny that many teams have no problems subbing against a hunh, yet we should create a rule that gives the offense a 15 yard penalty because some people have a hard time
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:55 pm to pvilleguru
They might get told by the ref to do so. Dunno.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:55 pm to pvilleguru
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I've seen a few cases where an opposing player was stuck on the opposite sideline for a play.
Now you are posting BS because it is an OBVIOUS foul
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:56 pm to pvilleguru
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And risk a too many men on the field penalty. Sure.
How long does it take a guy to run off the field?
Longer than it takes the Center to snap the ball. That's a significant part of the point. A diligent Hurry Up offense can effectively prevent the opposing defense from subbing or force said defense to get a penalty every time they sub. The only way the defense can avoid this dilemma is if they sub immediately after the whistle is blown before the offense can line up for the next play. That would take a well organized, well drilled disciplined defense especially after a running play when there no receivers down-field.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:59 pm to davesdawgs
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The only way the defense can avoid this dilemma is if they sub immediately after the whistle is blown before the offense can line up for the next play. That would take a well organized, well drilled disciplined defense especially after a running play when there no receivers down-field.
Which many teams do. The problem lies with the coaches/teams who don't want to. They'd rather create a rule than change their ways.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:59 pm to arrakis
quote:Nope. I believe it was in a college game within the last few years. It looked like a pretty awkward situation.
Now you are posting BS because it is an OBVIOUS foul
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:00 pm to davesdawgs
quote:You blame that on the coach. From the time the play is blown dead, there's plenty of time to sub.
Longer than it takes the Center to snap the ball. That's a significant part of the point. A diligent Hurry Up offense can effectively prevent the opposing defense from subbing or force said defense to get a penalty every time they sub. The only way the defense can avoid this dilemma is if they sub immediately after the whistle is blown before the offense can line up for the next play. That would take a well organized, well drilled disciplined defense especially after a running play when there no receivers down-field.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:02 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:feel free to list them all
The defense has far more advantages than the offense pre snap, it's a fact. Y'all are down right hilarious with the justifications.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:03 pm to pvilleguru
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From the time the play is blown dead, there's plenty of time to sub
Wasn't one of the pro rule talking points that snapping before 10 doesn't happen that often? So they admit there is time the majority of the time, but they'd rather have a penalty created
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:03 pm to davesdawgs
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A diligent Hurry Up offense can effectively prevent the opposing defense from subbing or force said defense to get a penalty every time they sub.
I'm still hoping somebody can explain to me why that's a bad thing. Saban wants to send in situational substitutions - everybody gets that. Just because Saban wants to play that way doesn't mean it is a fundamental part of football and HUNH offenses are violating some imagined football commandment.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:04 pm to pvilleguru
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Nope. I believe it was in a college game within the last few years. It looked like a pretty awkward situation.
You can claim anything, but you can't back up your mouth....fact.
Get a rule book and, if you can read, learn something. The applicable section is Rule 3-5-1 and 2
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:05 pm to narddogg81
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feel free to list them all
Substitutions are different and more restrictive
Positions on the field more restrictive
Movement, more restrictive
Etc...
Your gripe about the advantage of knowing when the ball is snapped isn't even rule related, its the general concept of sports and football related.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:07 pm to arrakis
Damn, you're getting pretty defensive. I've never looked at a football rule book and never care to. I'm just going by what I've seen.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:14 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:the frick are you talking about? how are substitutions more restrictive for offense? the offense can substitute anyone they want on any play. are you retarded? I dont even know what you are referring to with 'positions on the field more restrictive', and the majority of the motion related restrictions are in place because offenses were abusing previous rule loopholes to try and get defensive penalties, so they made a rule. does that sound familiar?
Substitutions are different and more restrictive Positions on the field more restrictive Movement, more restrictive
Posted on 2/26/14 at 7:18 pm to narddogg81
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the frick are you talking about? how are substitutions more restrictive for offense? the offense can substitute anyone they want on any play. are you retarded? I dont even know what you are referring to with 'positions on the field more restrictive', and the majority of the motion related restrictions are in place because offenses were abusing previous rule loopholes to try and get defensive penalties, so they made a rule. does that sound familiar?
It's okay to admit you don't have a clue.
Again offense has far more rules pre snap then the defense, yet you want another rule, because you can't accomplish what other teams can do without any issues.
Maybe we should rotate who wins each year as well, that balances everything.
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the majority of the motion related restrictions are in place because offenses were abusing previous rule loopholes to try and get defensive penalties, so they made a rule. does that sound familiar?
This made me laugh as well, if you don't see the hypocrisy involved here with the rule advantage then you are hopeless.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 7:27 pm
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