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re: The slowdown rule does NOT affect only a couple of plays per game
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:41 pm to trickydick12
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:41 pm to trickydick12
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Time outs prevent the offense from snapping the ball
This argument is probably even more ignorant than the player safety argument.
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:41 pm to lsupride87
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Is there a rule that does not allow the defense to sub that i am unaware of? Now the offense hurries to the line in order to persuade the defense not to sub. Just like the qb does play action to persuade the defense into thinking it is a running play
You're either really dense or really stupid.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:42 pm to Crimson Legend
quote:Incorrect again, the defense can sub
am saying that since the offense hurries to the LOS, and they control when the ball is snapped, the defense cannot sub
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:42 pm to NYCAuburn
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Its kind of like one team is defensive and reacting and the other is on the offensive and acting
I know, mind blown
Thanks for your always poignant contribution. And as usual, you are cordially invited to go play with the other children, since you have nothing to say.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:43 pm to The_Joker
quote:No, i am really right. 100% the defense can sub, put they chose not to because they dont want the offense to snap when they arent ready.
You're either really dense or really stupid.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:43 pm to Crimson Legend
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I am saying that since the offense hurries to the LOS, and they control when the ball is snapped, the defense cannot sub
and you are wrong
Cant do and not wanting to do are completely different
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, I am illustrating why this rule does not "affect only a few plays per game" as some people are asserting.
That would be from your side buddy.
Good lord can yall get your talking points straight
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:45 pm to lsupride87
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No, i am really right. 100% the defense can sub, put they chose not to because they dont want the offense to snap when they arent ready.
You are technically correct. When I use the word "can't", I mean that they can't do it without the offense snapping when they are completely unprepared and shorthanded. So by all practical standards, they can't sub. I hope you don't continue to split this hair.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:45 pm to lsupride87
In order to make bama and ark happy, and make everything compeltely fair, the offense now has to tell the defense exactly what play they are running, and the defense has to tell the offense exactly what scheme they will have. Basically football players will be replace by Sumo wrestlers, as leverage will be the most important trait
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:46 pm to lsupride87
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In order to make bama and ark happy, and make everything compeltely fair, the offense now has to tell the defense exactly what play they are running, and the defense has to tell the offense exactly what scheme they will have. Basically football players will be replace by Sumo wrestlers, as leverage will be the most important trait
Keep going pls
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:46 pm to lsupride87
Thread derailed by jackasses. Jimmies rustled, "he mad", blah blah blah.
Back to your regular bullshite. The children win again.
Back to your regular bullshite. The children win again.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:46 pm to Crimson Legend
quote:Ok, and on a passing play, the offense has to use a player to sit back and protect their QB, because that pesky trickery defense may blitz a linebacker. That seems unfair too now doesnt it?
You are technically correct. When I use the word "can't", I mean that they can't do it without the offense snapping when they are completely unprepared and shorthanded. So by all practical standards, they can't sub. I hope you don't continue to split this hair
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:47 pm to Crimson Legend
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I mean that they can't do it without the offense snapping when they are completely unprepared and shorthanded
Why can many teams do it and your scenario they cant?
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So by all practical standards, they can't sub.
no, they dont want to. Can't implies they are not allowed to or dont have the means. As I stated teams do it all the time. so if they dont, its because they dont WANT to
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:47 pm to TheCheshireHog
If the offense subs the defense should be allotted more and a specific amount of time to match personal.
If there is no offensive substitution then the defense should not be allotted special consideration via rule enforced stoppage in flow of game.
If there is no offensive substitution then the defense should not be allotted special consideration via rule enforced stoppage in flow of game.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:47 pm to Crimson Legend
Or your coaches can just think ahead. Have a guy ready to come on the field as soon as the play ends. It will take at least a few seconds for the refs to spot the ball. You can easily have a guy run on and off the field.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:48 pm to The_Joker
quote:Well i just think if this rule passes, we might as well make it an even playing field for all involved. Let me pass on to something my Dad told me, If you are pointing at 100 others calling them a dumbass, then maybe, just maybe, YOU are the dumbass
Keep going pls
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:49 pm to Crimson Legend
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Thread derailed by jackasses. Jimmies rustled, "he mad", blah blah blah.
Back to your regular bullshite. The children win again.
Bull shite. There have been plenty of reasonable responses. The rule is dumb. Its being hidden behind the guise of player safety, which in itself is spineless and should tell someone all they need to know about the motivations for the rule proposal to begin with.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:50 pm to kilo
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If the offense subs the defense should be allotted more and a specific amount of time to match personal.
If there is no offensive substitution then the defense should not be allotted special consideration via rule enforced stoppage in flow of game.
its almost like the rules committee from years ago read your mind
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:51 pm to Crimson Legend
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:52 pm to NYCAuburn
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its almost like the rules committee from years ago read your mind
I know, it just seems like folks just gloss over the rules.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:54 pm to kilo
Actually, kilo, I agree with your post above. I think the offense should be allowed to control the tempo as long as they don't sub. If they choose to sub, the defense should be allowed to sub without relying on a referee to stand over the ball (subjective enforcement) until the defensive player gets in position.
But none of that changes my point in THIS thread. The slowdown rule affects every play that the HUNH is used, because the offense rushes to the LOS and the defense cannot afford to attempt to sub.
*****and I have no comment on player safety. I don't believe player safety is a good justification of this rule. But I don't control Nick Saban's mind, so he can argue whatever he believes.
But none of that changes my point in THIS thread. The slowdown rule affects every play that the HUNH is used, because the offense rushes to the LOS and the defense cannot afford to attempt to sub.
*****and I have no comment on player safety. I don't believe player safety is a good justification of this rule. But I don't control Nick Saban's mind, so he can argue whatever he believes.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 2:56 pm
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