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re: The SEC title game is going to be a joke
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:50 pm to MillerLiteTime
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:50 pm to MillerLiteTime
I tend to agree with you. The game already has taken a hit in the CFP era and when we expand to 12 it’s really going to be pretty meaningless.
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:08 pm to MillerLiteTime
In every single other sport, once a playoff spot is guaranteed, they start sitting their starters for the remainder of the season. They'll play them a little bit to keep them from growing mold, but the NBA, NFL, MLB, they all take their foot off the gas once they are mathematically in the playoffs.
Someone explain to me why this wouldn't happen in CFB?
Someone explain to me why this wouldn't happen in CFB?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:20 pm to ReauxlTide222
Yeh they need to axe the game with the no division format and only playing 50% of teams. It’s worthless
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:23 pm to deeprig9
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but the NBA, NFL, MLB, they all take their foot off the gas once they are mathematically in the playoffs.
Not if the seeding matters if the Eagles and Cowboys are in January with both still having a shot at the top seed or even wining the division they won’t sit anyone
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:24 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:In basketball you play 100% of the teams
Oh spare me the melodrama, literally every other sport and every other level of college football has a true playoff system and conferences with no divisions.
In baseball you play 77% of the teams, not to mention everyone gets in the tournament besides two teams
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:24 pm to MillerLiteTime
You are aware the top four seeds get byes right?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:39 pm to dawgfan24348
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Not if the seeding matters
It won't.
For a bubble team, sure. A #7 team doesn't want to risk falling to 13.
But real seeding is based on wins, there's a formula, in the CFP it is based on subjectivity. A committee.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:43 pm to deeprig9
Top four seeds get a bye, next top four play on campus, it will matter
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:29 am to PeacefulFormerLurker
I don't know why everyone is against the four team divisions, even with an 8 game schedule. You can play everyone in 3 years, and keep all of your rivals. Its also a fair way to pick the two teams who will play in the SEC Championship. Every year two divisions go head-to-head, the winner of each group of two divisions play in the title game. The only caveat is when you play the division with your permanent opponent, you get another opponent that is also playing their perm already.
East
Florida (Tennessee)
Georgia (Auburn)
South Carolina (Vanderbilt)
Kentucky (Mizzou)
Tennessee Valley
Tennessee (Florida)
Vanderbilt (South Carolina)
Alabama (LSU)
Auburn (Georgia)
Mississippi Delta
Ole Miss (Arkansas)
Mississippi State (Oklahoma)
LSU (Alabama)
Texas A&M (Texas)
Big 4
Mizzou (Kentucky)
Arkansas (Ole Miss)
Oklahoma (Mississippi State)
Texas (Texas A&M)
East
Florida (Tennessee)
Georgia (Auburn)
South Carolina (Vanderbilt)
Kentucky (Mizzou)
Tennessee Valley
Tennessee (Florida)
Vanderbilt (South Carolina)
Alabama (LSU)
Auburn (Georgia)
Mississippi Delta
Ole Miss (Arkansas)
Mississippi State (Oklahoma)
LSU (Alabama)
Texas A&M (Texas)
Big 4
Mizzou (Kentucky)
Arkansas (Ole Miss)
Oklahoma (Mississippi State)
Texas (Texas A&M)
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:22 am to MillerLiteTime
Game would still be meaningful if all 5 P5 conference championship game winners got auto bids to the playoff like in basketball
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:37 am to MillerLiteTime
The mandate was never to put the best 2 SEC teams together in a playoff setting. The mandate by Roy Kramer was to make a ton of money for the SEC.
Now, that that has changed and the 2 best teams will be playing, what's the point when 12 teams are going into the playoffs soon?
Last season Ohio State got to stay home and eat their popcorn and not risk injury and fatigue as Michigan and Purdue battled it out in the B1G conference championship.
Going to be a lot more of that where this came from.
Now, that that has changed and the 2 best teams will be playing, what's the point when 12 teams are going into the playoffs soon?
Last season Ohio State got to stay home and eat their popcorn and not risk injury and fatigue as Michigan and Purdue battled it out in the B1G conference championship.
Going to be a lot more of that where this came from.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:52 am to MillerLiteTime
You make some good points but I don’t think some of them are new. I have felt for years that the SECCG is really unnecessary and puts our top teams in the mix for the CFP in danger of stubbing their toes and losing a game against a team that was average because they overlooked them and didn’t take it seriously and often times has already played and beat that team once during the regular season.
What you said about the injuries is the biggest point though. I automatically think about John Metchie going down a couple of years ago. Losing Metchie in that game hurt and then when Williams went down not very long into the title game it pretty much sealed it and Georgia won.
Now that the CFP has been expanded and gonna add a game or two I think the best move for the SEC is to go to a 10 game conference schedule and let the schedule makers make sure to try and make sure all the expected contenders for that year plays each other.
What you said about the injuries is the biggest point though. I automatically think about John Metchie going down a couple of years ago. Losing Metchie in that game hurt and then when Williams went down not very long into the title game it pretty much sealed it and Georgia won.
Now that the CFP has been expanded and gonna add a game or two I think the best move for the SEC is to go to a 10 game conference schedule and let the schedule makers make sure to try and make sure all the expected contenders for that year plays each other.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 11:55 am to MillerLiteTime
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1. With divisions eliminated and the top 2 teams in the game, both teams will already be ranked high enough to make the playoffs. The title game will only be a chance to play your way out of the playoff, get key players injured, and/or decrease your seed instead of an opportunity to play your way in.
2. The #3 ranked SEC team will likely already have a playoff spot secured and gets to sit home with no risk of hurting their seed or getting players injured.
3. The game will be anticlimactic as the only advantage to playing the game is a first round bye, which isn’t that impactful considering the alternative is a home game against a non P5 team or a low ranked Pac, B12, or ACC team.
4. Determining the 2 teams will feel arbitrary. In years with a dominant team like UGA the past 2 years, the 2nd place team will likely be whatever team avoided the dominant team in the regular season.
5. Ultimately it is an unnecessary postseason game where the loser likely doesn’t go home.
6. Conference title games in the B12, ACC, Pac, or even non P5 may be more exciting to watch than the SEC or B10 since those title games will likely actually have playoff implications.
If there wasn't a bye week at stake, I'd agree wholeheartedly. But as long as the game is for a bye in the playoff, it's worth playing for both teams. If you get your arse kicked bad enough to put you out or you have lost too many games going in to hold a high enough spot for a bye, then you probably aren't gonna win the playoff anyways.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:14 pm to MillerLiteTime
To be honest it ought to go away. I have had tickets since the first game in Atlanta. It is a college game off campus without alcohol sells in the majority of the stadium. It has the "feel" of a NFL game...kind of sterile...without any of the charm. College football should be played on campus and when it is played in NFL stadiums the atmosphere should be something other than that on campus...and they should sell alcohol to anyone old enough to drink. We have alcohol sells in our area and you can't get in the area without passes but man do folks try...and often succeed, or at least get someone with passes to buy for them and bring it out. It is silly....if you are going to treat it like a stadium on campus just play the game on campus.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:15 pm to MillerLiteTime
The winner will have a playoff bye while the loser and third and a lot of years fouth place teams wont....that is more than enough incentive to win the thing.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:32 pm to MillerLiteTime
Meanwhile I'm over here wanting to abolish the national championship structure altogether. College Ball should be a lot more regional like it used to be. You should care about beating your rivals and winning your conference FAR more than playing some pissant team from the rust belt.
For example, Tennessee beat Bama for the first time since integration yet their fans were all focused on not making the CFP instead. It's just wrong.
For example, Tennessee beat Bama for the first time since integration yet their fans were all focused on not making the CFP instead. It's just wrong.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:42 pm to weremoose
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For example, Tennessee beat Bama for the first time since integration yet their fans were all focused on not making the CFP instead. It's just wrong.
Actually, the orange team could have used some of that focus over in Columbia.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:49 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
All title games SHOULD be where one team plays themselves out of the playoffs.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 2:00 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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you're not wrong. what stops the #1 overall team like UGA from sitting their starters in the championship
Under my understanding of the 12-team playoff, only conference champions qualify for the bye week.
Let's look at last year's scenario: UGA #1 entering game, LSU needs win to get into playoff.
If LSU had beaten UGA, UGA would lose the bye, but it would be unlikely for LSU to be one of the top 4 conference champions. In this case, no SEC team would have gotten the bye.
There's still something on the line.
Now, I'm of the opinion that with the expanded playoff, the need for an SECCG does get lessened. However, once a team is in the game, they are likely to want to win it.
JMHO.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 2:30 pm to Honkus
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Bruh…
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