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re: The SEC really is not very good, tho
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:11 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:11 am to MrAUTigers
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LSU and UF are historic powers.
Does "historic" stop at the 90s? Did I miss something?
Number of SEC titles, pre-1990:
LSU 5 solo, 2 shared - a case can be made for the Tigers, though nearly half of their overall count came post-2000. Their earlier titles have decade-long gaps between most. I would not call that a "power".
Florida - 0 - Absolutely NOT a historic "power".
If Florida is an "historic" power, then the following teams are also historic powers:
Prior to 1990, teams with more SEC titles:
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Georgia
Kentucky
Tulane
Georgia Tech
Anyone calling Florida an "historic" power has absolutely no concept of football history.
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Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:12 am to CNB
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:14 am to SpringBokCock
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So Alabama and Vanderbilt are the SEC’s two historic powers.
Tennessee is an "historic" power without being a current one. LSU is a current power without being an "historic" one.
Florida is a past power, but is neither an "historic" one nor a current one.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:18 am to Arksulli
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we still have the best Coeds in the country. Even beating out California
Tell me you've never been to California without telling me you've never been to California.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:02 am to SpringBokCock
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Gotcha. So Alabama and Vanderbilt are the SEC’s two historic powers.
Makes sense.
Alabama and Tennessee. Although Tennessee hasn't been a power for 20 years, historically they are the #2 SEC team.
#3 would be Georgia.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 11:06 am to starkvingrad
I think it comes down a lot to coaches. If they are new age or old school. We have one that would have sweated the covid straight out of players in a Texas tool shed. New Agers not so much
Posted on 12/25/21 at 12:24 pm to X
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Tell me you've never been to California without telling me you've never been to California.
I have, in fact, been to California. It was crowded and it smelled like pee thanks to the Eucalyptus trees growing all over the state. Los Angeles is an armpit. San Francisco is an armpit with lots of hills. Thank you no.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 12:37 pm to skrayper
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Tennessee is an "historic" power without being a current one. LSU is a current power without being an "historic" one.
LOL what? LSU has a very good case of already passing Tennessee in the all time rankings. You can’t say Tennessee is a historic power without saying LSU is very my close to it if not already there.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:30 pm to vidtiger23
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LOL what? LSU has a very good case of already passing Tennessee in the all time rankings. You can’t say Tennessee is a historic power without saying LSU is very my close to it if not already there.
Recent events don't suddenly transform the meaning of the word "historic"
The US, no matter how powerful, is not an "historic" power. In the grand scheme of things, this country is still very much a baby compared to the European and Asian nations.
Is an LSU a better "all-time" program than Tennessee? Possibly.
Is it because of LSU's historical accomplishments? Absolutely not.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:39 pm to skrayper
UCF could win 1000 games and they are still nothing - no one gives them a single thought. They will never be Florida of LSU. They are literally a place where dumb kids and 2 stars go
Posted on 12/25/21 at 1:50 pm to NashvilleTider
At least aggy chickened out of getting embarrassed by a basketball school.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:52 pm to starkvingrad
13 bowl teams isnt good?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 4:59 pm to skrayper
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The US, no matter how powerful, is not an "historic" power. In the grand scheme of things, this country is still very much a baby compared to the European and Asian nations.
You need to move this argument to the SEC OT where we can discuss whether Mongolia and Macedonia are historic powers and things of that nature.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 8:12 pm to skrayper
I suppose it depends on what you mean historical. You seem to be debating semantics of the word historical.
I understand your argument and don’t totally disagree with you. But historical is just looking at the past. You could also argue whether or not being 4th and 5th in conference wins or winning percentage makes you a “power”.
I understand your argument and don’t totally disagree with you. But historical is just looking at the past. You could also argue whether or not being 4th and 5th in conference wins or winning percentage makes you a “power”.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 8:14 pm to skrayper
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Historic huh?
Three national titles with three consecutive head coaches (two of them being idiots). Only Miami is in that company. That's pretty historic.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 8:18 pm to 3down10
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No they aren't.
Yes, we are. Since college football began in the year 2000, we have certainly been a historic power.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:45 pm to skrayper
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Anyone calling Florida an "historic" power has absolutely no concept of football history.
Oh frick off and quit wasting your time nitpicking minutiae
Posted on 12/26/21 at 3:27 am to starkvingrad
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…It's also reasonable to say Mizzou and Texas A&M don't quite understand how important it is to the conference to take the bowl game seriously. SEC schools put a lot of pressure on each other to make a good showing in bowl season….
A&M is 3-0 in bowls with its current coach, and has won 6 bowls since joining the SEC. Only Bama and Georgia have won more. Georgia with 7.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 3:38 am
Posted on 12/26/21 at 5:06 am to starkvingrad
Heavy Lies The Crown
Posted on 12/26/21 at 8:46 am to 3down10
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Alabama and Tennessee. Although Tennessee hasn't been a power for 20 years, historically they are the #2 SEC team.
#3 would be Georgia
Revisionist history much?
Nattys
LSU 4
UT 2 (unless retroactive bullshite titles are counted)
UGA 1 (unless retroactive bullshite titles are counted)
SEC Champs
UT 13
UGA 13
LSU 12
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