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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos

Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11426 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Baylor just finished 3-9
TCU's 5-7
Kansas St lost to Missouri this year
Oklahoma St's 9-win team lost to South Alabama this year


Posted by GAT BoilerPickle Doc
Member since Dec 2014
2210 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:16 am to
Here are a few schools who've been able to overcome the SEC on recent years

Troy
Appalachian State
San Jose State
New Mexico State
Louisiana-Monroe
Western Kentucky
Middle Tennessee
South Alabama
Georgia State
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88613 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Ole Miss - laughing
Texas A&M - laughing harder


I notice you didn't actually answer the guys' question.

Nobody is comparing ole miss to Oklahoma. We're comparing ole miss to fricking kansas or iowa state or whoever you deem would be the 7th best program in the big 12.

Still waiting on that answer from you
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88613 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Here are a few schools who've been able to overcome the SEC on recent years


It's almost like you don't have any clue what the actual topic of discussion is.
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:21 am to
SEC had 14 teams for a decade while the Big 12 had 10. I’d hope the SEC would have more good teams.

Has the SEC had less undefeated teams than other conferences? Since it’s such a grind and anyone can beat anyone on any given Saturday?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I notice you didn't actually answer the guys' question.

Nobody is comparing ole miss to Oklahoma. We're comparing ole miss to fricking kansas or iowa state or whoever you deem would be the 7th best program in the big 12.

Still waiting on that answer from you


He didn't ask a question, genius.

He took the "Big 6" of the SEC and threw his own shitty team and Ole Miss on the end of it.

Know whose question hasn't been answered?

MINE

Where is my data I asked for about attrition in the SEC compared to other conferences going back to 2012?
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:24 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:24 am to
This is why - bottom half of the SEC vs bottom half of the Big XII over the last 10 years in the NFL draft.

The bottom half of the SEC is more talented than any league in the country overall, and even more so in the front 7. State has put almost as many DL/OL into the NFL over the past decade as the entire bottom half of the BXII combined.

It's a gauntlet because physically you are playing against more guys on the other side that are big and strong and good at football than you are in other leagues.

This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 9:27 am
Posted by VYForever
Frisco
Member since Feb 2019
715 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

No one knows what you are talking about. The problem in the SEC is you can't just play 2 big games a year and then a bunch of Texas Tech type schools. Your next game is an Ole Miss which would be a top 3 program in the BIG 12.


Spoiler Alert: Auburn IS a Texas Tech type school in the age of NIL and transfer portal.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4312 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:28 am to
The SEC prides itself on beating each others asses and getting after each other. Wait till you have to go to Death Valley and night or you have to go to Auburn and experience the voodoo. It’s hard. The worst experience in the world is watching your team go to Starkville and get into a ballgame they should have put away early. The more hope Miss St fans have the louder those cowbells get. It’s hard to go on the road in this league and get a win. Vandy is the only easy place to play in the SEC.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10521 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

SEC gauntlet schedule

My first thought is LSU having to survive the Floridas and Auburns just to get to the Bama game with a shot at the West. Then you lose a heartbreaker and the next week you have to go to Fayetteville where it's 29­° and Bert is wearing a 4XL starter jacket and has like 5 TEs and 3 FBs on the field all game.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104987 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:29 am to
quote:

Spoiler Alert: Auburn IS a Texas Tech type school in the age of NIL and transfer portal.



Spoiler alert : Auburn has about 4x as many guys in the NFL than Texas Tech over the last decade. They are not the same.
Posted by WhiskeyDick
shite Poster
Member since Sep 2014
1389 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:29 am to
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I’d like to see some data that playing against more NFL talent means more injuries


sHoW mE tHe dAta!

iS tHaT pEeR rEviEwEd?!?

I apologize to the Aggies who I ignored while trying to warn us, these douche bags from Austin truly are fricking morons.

Yes, going up against 2.5x the NFL talent week in and out who are bigger, stronger, and faster will indeed cause you to be more banged up, it doesn’t take a rocket surgery degree to come to this conclusion without needing hard data.
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6768 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:29 am to
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No they wouldn’t, because they wouldn’t recruit like they do in the SEC.

The “more talent” line of thinking goes both ways. Texas will recruit even better with the SEC patch.

And I’d like to see some data that playing against more NFL talent means more injuries.


Texas already recruits well in Texas, and hasn't Texas already had top recruiting classes? The difference will be Texas will still recruit mostly the State of Texas but the State of Texas has only produced 1 NC since 1970.

Honestly when Texas joined it means more talent for the other SEC teams, teams that actually play for and win NCs.

Did you play football? If you did you would know that playing top talent week in and week out produces more injuries.
Posted by Jimmy Montrose
Lake Highlands
Member since Aug 2021
1355 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:30 am to
Texas will be able to recruit better. This will cancel out any theoretical gauntlet.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12912 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:30 am to
Can anybody show me all the players aggot and mizzou lost to injury in their first season in your league "cuz of dat SEC griiinnd"?

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88613 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:31 am to
quote:

you lose a heartbreaker and the next week you have to go to Fayetteville where it's 29­° and Bert is wearing a 4XL starter jacket and has like 5 TEs and 3 FBs on the field all game.


Posted by VYForever
Frisco
Member since Feb 2019
715 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:31 am to
At the end of the day, let's see. Next year will be here soon enough.

And if Texas wilts like a flower in Texas heat, then I guess we will agree this is true.

If the opposite happens, that Texas is able to withstand the abuse of an SEC schedule, I doubt you same posters (and especially fans of the also-rans bottom half of the conference) will ever admit being wrong and just move the goal posts to "Texas has an easy schedule this year!" which I'm already seeing threads about.

But it makes one think, if SEC is such a challenge top to bottom, how can an SEC schedule be anything but difficult? No such thing as an easy SEC schedule, or true Scotsman...
Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
Member since Jan 2019
916 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:32 am to
According to SEC Rant

1. Playing in the SEC is a gauntlet. There are no off weeks.

2. Texas' 2024 SEC schedule is weak
Posted by VYForever
Frisco
Member since Feb 2019
715 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Spoiler alert : Auburn has about 4x as many guys in the NFL than Texas Tech over the last decade. They are not the same.


did you miss my qualifier that I said in the modern NIL/transfer portal era?
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4312 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 9:33 am to
Look Alabama has been second to none in recruiting for years now and Saban has had 2 undefeated seasons. That should tell you a lot.
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