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re: The SEC gauntlet schedule mythos
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:52 am to CharlotteSooner
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:52 am to CharlotteSooner
quote:He's just confused. Apparently SEC members have to wipe their chins every morning before they get dressedquote:
Can you even dress yourself in the morning?
Better than you can justify your narratives or comprehend what "lose" means. That's a certainty.
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:53 am to VYForever
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In short; why do teams like A&M and Mizzou and Miss St and UK and Tenn and Auburn love the “SEC is a gauntlet” mythos?
Little Brother Complex. It's a major bragging point for Arkansas and A&M fans. They're saying "my big brother (SEC) would whip your big brother's (insert conference) arse."
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:53 am to Topwater Trout
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and they are under .500 all time in sec play...your point?
The point is that the Big XII has only been around since 1996.
And 'Ole Miss hasn't really played OU or Texas much in that period of time (they are 2-1 against those teams).
So obviously it is these "middling" Big XII teams that are doing the damage to 'Ole Miss.
Glad to spell it out for you.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 10:55 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:55 am to Shea Vinnerbush
He's not confused at all. He tried to imply a false equivalency that a player lost to injury definitely means season ending injury, which it doesn't.
Whether you "lose" a player for 2 weeks, 6 weeks, or the season, you lost a player to injury. It's common language used nationwide, but he wants to pretend that it isn't.
Whether you "lose" a player for 2 weeks, 6 weeks, or the season, you lost a player to injury. It's common language used nationwide, but he wants to pretend that it isn't.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:55 am to CharlotteSooner
Maybe...just maybe Texas and Okie should play a couple of seasons in the conference before dismissing the notion. Mizzou and the Aggies warned us. They are who we were told they would be. Trying to diminish the conference you chose to join because of perceived superiority but then you reject the premise once you arrive.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:57 am to VYForever
Texas will find out soon, although honestly you guys caught a break compared to OU with next year's schedule.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:57 am to Tickytiger
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Mizzou and the Aggies warned us.
Hahaha......you poor dope.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:58 am to CharlotteSooner
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I don't know. I don't have that data. What does that have to do with what I'm talking about besides another attempt to shift the goalposts?
there isn't really any data that says players in the NFL are more banged up than players in college...it's common sense.
If the SEC has better talent, bigger and faster players, than the Big 12 wouldn't logic tell you playing 8 sec teams a year would be more physically testing than playing 6 games against Big 12 teams? now if you want to say the Big 12 has the same level of talent than the sec you can say so...then data can be used to show your stupidity.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:58 am to Tickytiger
Aggie had its best season ever its first year in the SEC. Mizzou had its two best seasons within the first 3 years in the SEC.
How do you square that with "Big 12 team can't survive SEC schedule?"
How do you square that with "Big 12 team can't survive SEC schedule?"
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:00 am to CharlotteSooner
Dude I watched Bama torch one of the best defenses Kirby ever had as a head coach or DC in 2021. Bama completely torched that defense in the SECCG game that year and they lost Metchie in that game doing it. Then they play in the Natty and Williams goes down. At that point Bama was done because they had no other way of threatening that defense. So playing SEC teams week in and week out is hard and physical. You can lose titles because of the roster getting thinned out.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:02 am to Topwater Trout
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there isn't really any data that says players in the NFL are more banged up than players in college...it's common sense.
It is? Since when?
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If the SEC has better talent, bigger and faster players, than the Big 12 wouldn't logic tell you playing 8 sec teams a year would be more physically testing than playing 6 games against Big 12 teams? now if you want to say the Big 12 has the same level of talent than the sec you can say so...then data can be used to show your stupidity.
No not really. I don't see any data that says the SEC has bigger, faster players. More next-level talent? Sure. That doesn't equate to more injuries. If you think it does, show me that data.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:02 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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Aggie had its best season ever its first year in the SEC. Mizzou had its two best seasons within the first 3 years in the SEC.
How do you square that with "Big 12 team can't survive SEC schedule?"
He won't answer that question. It gets ignored all the time by the drooling masses that spout the SEC talking points.
None of them ever have an answer for how A&M has won more conference games in the SEC than they ever did in the Big 12.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:04 am to RollingwiththeTide
We had an absolute shite ton of injuries this year in the lowly Big 12. QB1 missed games. RB1 out with torn ACL. TE1/WR1, entire secondary hobbled all year. Does my anecdote contradict yours?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:07 am to Shea Vinnerbush
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The rest of CFB DOES recognize for what it is... that's why Texas had the 5th ranked SOS in the country this year.
They were only behind 2 SEC schools. One of which was Alabama. Boy it sure would be nice if those schools could've played each other this year to shut those big meanie longhorn fans up and put them in their place!!!
Tell me how many NCs Texas has won in the last 50 years?
Auburn and Tennessee have won that many and Florida, LSU, Georgia, Alabama have won more.
By the way, how has Texas done against SEC teams when they have a chance at winning the NC? Because more than likely you will have a chance again this year.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:07 am to Shea Vinnerbush
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Lol based on what? Texas' 8-2 record against them? Their 1-0 record against them this year, which included a mercy knee to only win by 10 instead of 17?
Keep getting on your knees for them, bud. It in no way is incredibly embarrassing for you to slurp another team in your own conference
How many times has Texas played Alabama 28 days after playing UGA, LSU and Tennessee? I would bet that the some of times Texas played Alabama it was after a month or so, in a bowl game where Alabama had fallen out of the top of the SEC.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:08 am to CharlotteSooner
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Better than you can justify your narratives or comprehend what "lose" means. That's a certainty.
Your original shite post in response to SOG talked about “losing players”. Nobody in this thread defending the SEC brings up “losing players” as a justification of SEC strength and dominance. Injuries when a player is considered “lost”, whether it be one game, multiple games, or a season happen in all leagues. What we are talking about in this thread is how most teams in the SEC have high caliber players that beat the frick out of each other week in and week out which is “the grind of the SEC”. This has been proven by the amount of draft picks that dwarfs other conferences. Beating the frick out of each other doesn’t equate to “lost players” as you for some reason injected into this thread. There’s a reason why LSU and Bama have been scheduling bye weeks prior to playing each other. That’s not a coincidence.
Eta and depth adds to the ability to rotate bodies in on the d-line to continue beating the frick out of the other team.
This post was edited on 12/13/23 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:09 am to VYForever
Tldr, get a job. But you gonna find out abour SEC.
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:09 am to Gunga Din
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So obviously it is these "middling" Big XII teams that are doing the damage to 'Ole Miss.
So you think the teams that go .500 in sec conference play are the same as the ones going .500 in the big 12 year in year out? this is what you are arguing?
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:10 am to Boomer Sooner 1890
If the SEC isn't superior, then why did the 2 best teams from the B12 give up on their conference and want to join? Your teams actions would dictate otherwise....logic and all
Posted on 12/13/23 at 11:10 am to CharlotteSooner
If OU and Texas have this attitude come September you guys should expect a long season next year. The fastest way to have a losing season in the SEC is to disrespect the level of competition you are facing every week and have the attitude that you can just roll out those Texas or OU helmets and people are gonna piss down their legs before they put a beat down on someone. The logo on the side of the helmet doesn’t win you games in the SEC. If anything the bigger the logo the more it makes teams wanna kick your arse.
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