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The Problem With Preseason Rankings
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:39 am
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:39 am
Even after Mizzou beats Georgia next week, there is a 0% chance we will be ranked ranked ahead of them. And why is that, it is simply because of the stupid preseason rankings. There really should be no rankings before week 8.
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Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:43 am to M1zz0u
Don’t stress about impossible scenarios
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:43 am to M1zz0u
quote:Way to prove your point on a hypothetical that won't happen
Even after Mizzou beats Georgia next week, there is a 0% chance we will be ranked ranked ahead of them.
quote:The rankings don't mean anything.
And why is that, it is simply because of the stupid preseason rankings. There really should be no rankings before week 8.
But anyways do you realize how impossible that is? Get rid of the AP and Coaches Polls, and people on the internet will make their own lists, popular ones will be published and shown on tv and we'll be right back where we were. You're asking that people not speculate and discuss on who will be good this year. That's never going to happen
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:47 am to genro
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The rankings don't mean anything.
Hahaha, this is so rich coming from an Alabama fan. Do you really think that without no preseason hype, a team that couldn’t even win their own division would ever be in the playoffs.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:50 am to M1zz0u
I think the playoff committee has a body of work to look at and don’t need to look at preseason rankings
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:52 am to M1zz0u
quote:If there's no preseason hype it means no one cares and the playoffs and this message board never exist
Hahaha, this is so rich coming from an Alabama fan. Do you really think that without no preseason hype, a team that couldn’t even win their own division would ever be in the playoffs.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 12:52 am to biglego
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I think the playoff committee has a body of work to look at and don’t need to look at preseason rankings
Yeah, then why did Bama get in last year and why was Penn State left out two years ago?? The committee acts all high and mighty, but they’re the same as everyone else.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 1:47 am to M1zz0u
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Yeah, then why did Bama get in last year and why was Penn State left out two years ago?? The committee acts all high and mighty, but they’re the same as everyone else.
Putting Bama in was probably the correct thing to do last year. My ONLY complaint about it was that Auburn had already beaten Bama and was in the playoffs until the SEC championship game (an extra game that basically meant nothing and ultimately a game that Bama didn’t have to play). In a way, it was unfair to Auburn (because it was an extra game against a team they had already beaten) and favorable to Bama. Would Bama had beaten Georgia in the SEC championship game? Possibly, but we don’t know for sure.
The thing is, there is always going to be a team that gets the raw end of the deal. Maybe conference championship games should be eliminated if winning the conference isn’t a requirement to get into the playoffs. It is unfair for a team to be forced to play an extra game. Of course, not having the championship game could also come back to bite a team in the arse. It happened to TCU.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:29 am to M1zz0u
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Even after Mizzou beats Georgia next week,
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 3:30 am
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:33 am to M1zz0u
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Yeah, then why did Bama get in last year and why was Penn State left out two years ago??
I could argue this with you all day, but you won't listen to it.
PSU was denied because OSU's resume was better. PSU shouldn't have lost to Pitt.
OSU was denied because Bama's resume was better. OSU shouldn't have lost to Iowa. It's that simple.
To this point the committee has been pretty much spot on. You lose two, you better win your conference and your schedule better be a behemoth.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:41 am to M1zz0u
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Even after Mizzou beats Georgia next week, there is a 0% chance we will be ranked ranked ahead of them.
ISWYDT and.....
Posted on 9/16/18 at 5:43 am to M1zz0u
I actually agree about the rankings.... but the Dawgs are gonna kill Mizz.
UGA has never lost in CoMo
UGA has never lost in CoMo
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 5:43 am
Posted on 9/16/18 at 5:47 am to koreandawg
I believe that’s what the committee used. But personally, if there is only gonna be 4 teams, which is 3% of FBS teams; you need to win something before you can play for something bigger. I just feel like that qualification, keeps teams from getting the benefit of the doubt based on reputation and you can’t argue that doesn’t happen. It clearly appears it does.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:01 am to M1zz0u
Bc the committee thought Bama was a top 4 team (they were) and Penn St had two losses. Preseason polls didn’t matter.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:05 am to AshLSU
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Maybe conference championship games should be eliminated if winning the conference isn’t a requirement to get into the playoffs.
The conf champ games are a pre-BCS relic that don’t fit well into the current playoff model. But they make money so they aren’t going away.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:09 am to 3rddownonthe8
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I believe that’s what the committee used. But personally, if there is only gonna be 4 teams, which is 3% of FBS teams; you need to win something before you can play for something bigger. I just feel like that qualification, keeps teams from getting the benefit of the doubt based on reputation and you can’t argue that doesn’t happen. It clearly appears it does.
The best argument anyone has to say the committee chooses based on reputation and not substance is the first one when OSU was picked over Baylor and TCU. OSU winning it shut everyone up.
No one besides Alabama or Ohio State had a good argument last year. Ohio State was beaten by a top tier team and a not so good team. They were actually slaughtered by a not so good team.
Bama beat the crap out of almost all mediocre teams they played. Lost to a top tier team. Their only loss.
Pretty much the same thing happened with OSU and PSU.
If your argument is they should have to win a conference championship, get the NCAA to make that the rule. It's not the rule. If the committee used that, they would not be doing what they are told to do by the rules.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:16 am to M1zz0u
Seems so far the preseason rankings haven’t been off too much.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:55 am to M1zz0u
There shouldn't be any rankings at all, shits stupid. Only conference champions should make a playoff no matter what their record is.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 8:00 am to koreandawg
We aren't beating Georgia but the rankings take care of themselves.
The one thing the CFP committee gets right is not releasing a ranking until after week 6. Take care of your business and you'll be there no matter where you started.
The one thing the CFP committee gets right is not releasing a ranking until after week 6. Take care of your business and you'll be there no matter where you started.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 8:00 am to M1zz0u
I've never seen a sec go undefeated and have 0 chance at a playoff spot, regardless of their preseason rank. In fact in the last decade I've seen my team go from unranked to number 1, it just takes a bunch of wins and shite... not just 1.
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