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Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:53 pm to DMagic
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Yeah we will never be ranked in the top five or competing for titles
EVER
This is absolute peak Ole Miss. Kiffin can get Ole Miss to the playoffs every few years. What he won't be able to do is get them in nearly every year and then win it all. OM will face a constant frustration of being a very good team that loses to great teams. There is a hard ceiling at OM. Florida is one of only about 5-7 programs that can truly give a coach everything.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:55 pm to MillerLiteTime
Isn’t it the first year of the expanded playoff or am I missing something? We don’t know what he can do yet
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:01 pm to finchmeister08
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Why aren’t they winning? Not like Sunbelt Billy isn’t a good coach when it comes to X’s and O’s.
Have you seen Florida play with Napier as a play caller? He couldn’t coach a peewee team.
If true, then why Florida didn't listen to others saying Billy isn't that good of a HC. There are much better coaches out there. I am puzzled why Florida picked Napier. Just look at the past 3 Florida HCs. All became failures. First of all, Florida got to get rid of the AD first before hiring the next HC. It is all about the right fit. Some HCs are not the right fit at some schools.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:06 pm to GoGators1995
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$26 million is a lot more for our boosters than A&M, we don't have oil money.
Might be true but I would wait out and see how the season goes. before pulling the trigger to fire Napier. Maybe give him another year. This is not really going to set Florida back to the dark age.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:18 pm to DMagic
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Isn’t it the first year of the expanded playoff or am I missing something? We don’t know what he can do yet
There are very few teams with enough talent to actually win a national title. Ole Miss isn't one. IF Ole Miss can make the playoffs, they will need to win 3-4 games as an underdog to win a national title. The point of taking a job like Florida is that you can make the playoffs every year and be the favorite or a pickem in every game once you get there.
The playoffs are going to give teams like Ole Miss a chance in theory, but the reality is that the same group of bullies with the same types of pedigrees are going to win it all even moreso with a playoff because dominant teams like UGA with one loss are never going to get left out again.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:21 pm to MillerLiteTime
You have zero way of knowing any of this especially this early in the season. Also what indicates Florida would be there annually? What’s been stopping them since Urban?
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:24 pm to MillerLiteTime
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There are very few teams with enough talent to actually win a national title. Ole Miss isn't one. IF Ole Miss can make the playoffs, they will need to win 3-4 games as an underdog to win a national title. The point of taking a job like Florida is that you can make the playoffs every year and be the favorite or a pickem in every game once you get there.
Wasn’t this the take on Clemson and Dabo about 2012? Ole Miss is the new Clemson. Very similar type progress. This is the year Lane beats Georgia and gets over the hump.
Dart = Watson
Harris = D Hop
Great D lines
It fits.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:48 pm to TrueLefty
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If true, then why Florida didn't listen to others saying Billy isn't that good of a HC.If true, then why Florida didn't listen to others saying Billy isn't that good of a HC.
Because AD Scott Stricklin is a Moo State dawg who can't get right.
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. It is all about the right fit. Some HCs are not the right fit at some schools.
EXACTLY.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:16 pm to JackTraven
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Florida owes 13 million immediately and then another 13 paid out over time. Woof.
He probably wont get all of that.
They will probably try to fire him for cause (Rashada case).
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:49 am to LSBoosie
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So why aren't Ole Miss booster ponying up more money than Florida boosters?
They are
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:55 am to Insurancerebel
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Not like Sunbelt Billy isn’t a good coach when it comes to X’s and O’s.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:00 am to TrueLefty
You can have all the money in the world but Kiffin won’t go to Florida unless the have a permanent university president and an AD on solid footing.
It would be career suicide to accept a job where you know you’re likely to have a new boss before your first game.
It would be career suicide to accept a job where you know you’re likely to have a new boss before your first game.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:04 am to JohnJohn
I don't think Lane would come here but not because of the AD.
ADs don't have much operational impact on a football team or coach. They are very high level and generally aren't micromanaging because that's not their job.
ADs don't have much operational impact on a football team or coach. They are very high level and generally aren't micromanaging because that's not their job.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:14 am to MillerLiteTime
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Kiffin can get Ole Miss to the playoffs every few years. What he won't be able to do is get them in nearly every year and then win it all.
If the expanded playoff was around last year we would’ve been in. We are set up nicely to make it this year assuming we can take care of business and no injuries.
That would be 2 years in a row for little Ole Miss. Meanwhile powerhouse Florida with all these supposed built in advantages is losing to everyone they play.
I think some fans still think it’s 2006 forever when they describe the coaching job landscape. They have no ability to see how much the landscape has changed.
Fun fact, Mullen at Florida had the same record as Kiffin does at Ole Miss through the same number of games, then he got fired.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:15 am to jonnyanony
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They are
Doesn't that go directly against your "money = recruiting" stance?
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:19 am to LSBoosie
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Doesn't that go directly against your "money = recruiting" stance?
Not at all.
Ole Miss is currently ranked #19 on Rivals versus UF at #34.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:20 am to RebelExpress38
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Fun fact, Mullen at Florida had the same record as Kiffin does at Ole Miss through the same number of games, then he got fired.
Now compare Ole Miss's trajectory this year to Florida's in Dan Mullen's final year. Then when you're done with that, factor in the level of interest Dan Mullen has shown in coaching in the NIL era.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:24 am to LSBoosie
How many #1 portal classes do we have to sign before you realize that we are actually recruiting very well? Kiffin has stated multiple times that he is going portal heavy because he knows what he is getting instead of wasting time on high school blue chips that turn out to be college busts.
He's always going to have a moderate high school class and an excellent portal class.
Some of you folks are still living in the pre-portal / NIL era with your logic.
Wake up. The game changed.
He's always going to have a moderate high school class and an excellent portal class.
Some of you folks are still living in the pre-portal / NIL era with your logic.
Wake up. The game changed.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:08 am to DMagic
Florida has been to 3 SEC championships since Urban. How many has Ole Miss been too...ever?
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