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The problem with 16 teams

Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6459 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:20 pm
The CCG will consist of:

* one team that belongs there
* another team that backed in through a weak schedule

The true #2, #3, and #4 in the SEC won’t make it.

It will be a game between the best and then maybe the fifth or sixth best, rankings be damned.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15672 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:21 pm to
You're right, the four most recent additions should do the right thing and leave
Posted by ElChupacabra
Member since Jun 2023
485 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
20933 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:25 pm to
If you ask my opinion the team that wins the last game of the playoffs will be the champion.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
2454 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:27 pm to
So it will be like every other sport in the universe where playoffs are determined by clearly defined parameters rather than beauty contests?
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
1677 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:31 pm to
16 teams would kill conference title games.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19059 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:33 pm to
CCG not needed.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1970 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:33 pm to
He’s talking about 16 teams being in the SEC.
Posted by teamjackson
call me Walnut
Member since Nov 2012
7040 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:38 pm to
Hey ding dong
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28915 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

another team that backed in through a weak schedule


Are you talking about yourself here?
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3116 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:46 pm to
Which is why you add an extra game to power your sample size.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1970 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:47 pm to
This “problem” has existed for years. The SEC East was weak from 2010 till 2021. It was Georgia or Florida and everyone else while the west had at least 3-4 solid teams each year. Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St., and Texas A&M were all top 5 teams at one point during that period. The East had several 3-loss champs.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6459 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

So it will be like every other sport in the universe where playoffs are determined by clearly defined parameters rather than beauty contests?


No. The SEC has no structure. Other sports do. The SEC is a 16 pile-up where not everybody can play an even schedule. And so this is what you’ll get. Just wait and see who falls into that game and manstomped by UGA.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3346 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

16 teams would kill conference title games.


12 is worse. Now that Alabama "My Team" looks likely to lose a game or two each year, I still would like them in a playoff if they're worthy.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14834 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Are you talking about yourself here?


It does appear the OP is trolling himself.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18247 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:04 pm to
Unless somehow the 2 highest ranks teams in the SEC get in, it won't really be a championship game.

Otherwise, it's just a small league tourney. 2 team tourney championship, that's it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70190 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:04 pm to
I've seen chatter online about the SEC working on getting back to divisions, in talks.

I hope they do.

The NFL has 32 teams and two conferences with 8 total divisions.

The SEC has 16 teams in 1 conference with zero divisions.

It is asinine.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
4894 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:06 pm to
Any more than 12 absolutely waters down the playoffs, and I still maintain 8 is the perfect number.

Of course now that they've gone to 12 they won't ever drop to 8, and the pressure (once the accounting dept runs the numbers) to expand further will come very soon.

Expanding to 16, 18 or god forbid 20 will have the same effect the playoffs themselves have had on the traditional bowl system. Not only will it make the playoffs less of an accomplishment, you could also see draft worthy players on teams that get in the playoffs yet have no realistic shot at winning their matchup actually sit out. Yes, I know how crazy that sounds, but you would have called me crazy 30 years ago if I said "some players will choose to not play in the Sugar Bowl, Rose Bowl etc and save their bodies for the NFL"

Honestly though, in any given season are there TRULY more than 8 teams that have a body of work (w/l records + sos) that make them playoff worthy? Yes, the 12 team playoff makes it possible for the service academies and maybe once a decade super dark horse to get in, but going above 12 would be a mistake imo.
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 7:26 pm
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6459 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Unless somehow the 2 highest ranks teams in the SEC get in, it won't really be a championship game.


Where would Bama be right now if they played A&M’s schedule? Undefeated, that’s where.

We can’t have disparity of schedules elevating some teams and pushing good teams down.

Who here thinks A&M has a hope in hell to beat Bama? Why not, they’re #1 right?

What a farce.
Posted by FatHoginTexas
Member since Apr 2021
100 posts
Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:16 pm to
Any not? The NFL does and the SEC is NFL light.
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