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re: The Newton Rule?
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:02 am to beatbammer
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:02 am to beatbammer
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Tainted season is tainted.
Undefeated season (thus far) is undefeated. Suck it.
I guess when your Auburn you have to take them however you can get them.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:04 am to beatbammer
You are easily the dumbest Auburn fan on this board since Hank left. Discuss something like an adult or gtfo because you make the rest of you look bad.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:04 am to 4nmylifetime
They haven't won one yet without some sort of asterisk. Looks like they won't this year either. Such great tradition.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:07 am to NBamaAlum
quote:Sorry, missed that earlier. I agree he was just talking about eligibility, but I think if they are going to pass new legislation in January and inferring from his comments, it seems unlikely the NCAA will do anything else without additional information.
Take a peek at my post on the bottom of page 2 and let me know what you think.
I understand that the enforcement and eligibility committees are separate, but I think they share info. There haven't been any new NCAA interviews that I am aware of and plenty of reporters have claimed "sources" saying that the investigation is essentially over. I just don't see the NCAA and its president making the public statements they have, if the NCAA had information that would lead them to take additional action.
However, I could be wrong. The NCAA definitely could take action and they may. This statement is just a small reason for me to believe that they probably will not. Maybe I am reading too much into it as an AU homer, but I don't think that is the case.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:07 am to flomacanes
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Reading through the first couple of pages of fricken' barners
There are a few AU guys on here that actually hope that nothing happened, but don't have a good feeling about it. For them, I truly feel bad for them if AU gets punished for Lowder & Co actions.
It's the crowd who think that AU is completely clean, Cam didn't know, and ESPN is out to get AU which makes everyone hate AU. For those guys, I hope AU gets hammered by the NCAA after the FBI finishes their case against McGreggor & co. There's just way too much contradictory statements by Newton & Co to believe that he's 100% innocent.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:07 am to Fat Fingers
Tell me you aren't a proctologist
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:08 am to labamafan
quote:I hadn't heard.
Hank left

Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:08 am to labamafan
I am not. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:12 am to WDE24
This Hank was gone a long long time ago. He and one of the bama fans I can't recall used to tard up the board with their constant whine and flame fest. It was like watching two grade schoolers fight it out.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:23 am to 4nmylifetime
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the boy let his daddy decide his school of choice so the likelyhood that Cam didn't know doesn't hold water
Good point. As WDE24 pointed out Cam is of legal adult age. If an adult is going to make a concious decision to leave his decision solely up to a representative (in this case his father) then shouldnt that "adult" accept the risk and consequenses if said person representes him poorly.
WDE24 what are your thouhgts on this?
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:26 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:That's where Cam's knowledge is paramount to the NCAA, IMO. No one can act as your agent/representative, legally speaking, unless you authorize them to. Also, just because a person claims to represent you, or represents you for a particular matter or issue, if that person acts outside the scope of representation for which he was authorized, then you most likely will not be held accountable.
WDE24 what are your thouhgts on this?
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:32 am to WDE24
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No one can act as your agent/representative, legally speaking, unless you authorize them to.
...but since Cam was of legal age wasnt he "authorizing" his dad to be his representative (agent)when he chose to let him make the decision for him?...and with that authorization you are saying that the client shouldnt be held accountable for choosing a poor agent? Come WDE you sound too much like a lawyer. Stop double backing and admit Cam is not kosher on this.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:39 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:Maybe, but that doesn't mean he was authorizing him to solict payments on his behalf.
but since Cam was of legal age wasnt he "authorizing" his dad to be his representative (agent)when he chose to let him make the decision for him?...
quote:I honestly don't know. There are plausible scenarios in which Cam is completely innocent on this. There are also plausible scenarios (and admittedly more likely scenarios) where Cam has differing degrees of culpability. As it stands, the NCAA appears like they are not going to punish him due to a lack of evidence (of which they have more than anyone else), so I am not going to declare him guilty based on public perception and unverified and conflicting reports regarding the evidence.
admit Cam is not kosher on this
FWIW, I don't think Cecil or Cam is Jewish.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 10:43 am
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:44 am to WDE24
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"Who is an agent and who is a third party and how do you define that?" Emmert said. "Is it a registered agent? A financial adviser? A counselor, an uncle, an AAU coach? Who is representing you? The reason the backlash didn't surprise me is that the face of the case seemed straight forward but we had to deal with the reality of the facts that were known."
I can certainly see how it is confusing when Cam stated that "I let my dad choose for me". That is a very confusing statement and makes it difficult to ascertain who represented him.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:50 am to WDE24
Funny how they have to make a new rule instead of just enforcing the ones they already have.
I hope the barn burns to the ground. They wonder why people are so against them. Can they not see what kind of stupid comments they post. No one likes a flammer. If they believe that Cam knew nothing about the money they really do have their head in the sand. I know that i was real close to my dad and would have known that he was asking for money
I hope the barn burns to the ground. They wonder why people are so against them. Can they not see what kind of stupid comments they post. No one likes a flammer. If they believe that Cam knew nothing about the money they really do have their head in the sand. I know that i was real close to my dad and would have known that he was asking for money
Posted on 12/15/10 at 10:51 am to Alahunter
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I can certainly see how it is confusing when Cam stated that "I let my dad choose for me". That is a very confusing statement and makes it difficult to ascertain who represented him.
Even more confusing when he later tells Chris Fowler in an interview that the decision was his and his alone.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:02 am to WDE24
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admit Cam is not kosher on this
I honestly don't know. There are plausible scenarios in which Cam is completely innocent on this. There are also plausible scenarios (and admittedly more likely scenarios) where Cam has differing degrees of culpability. As it stands, the NCAA appears like they are not going to punish him due to a lack of evidence (of which they have more than anyone else), so I am not going to declare him guilty based on public perception and unverified and conflicting reports regarding the evidence.
Suprisingly in strict legal interpretation I agree with you on this. It is really the only course of action one can take to avoid further issues. You can only go on what you know based on the facts you have.
In the court of public opinion however I look at it like this. If Cam Newton's honesty were a credit score, based on his history what would it be?
Thanks for the good dialoge. One of the better Newton threads.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:05 am to 4nmylifetime
quote:Not sure, but he would probably have to have a co-signer on a prepaid cell phone.
If Cam Newton's honesty were a credit score, based on his history what would it be?
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Thanks for the good dialoge. One of the better Newton threads.


Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:05 am to Alahunter
The only fact that everyone knows is that no one knows all the facts.
We can all speculate all day on what we think happened and what we hope happened, but again, no one knows for sure except a very few people. If the NCAA comes out at a later date and says they have more info about the situation that is bad for Auburn/Cam, then so be it, but as of now the only person they've found that did any wrong doing is Cecil Newton. Well, Rogers too, but he's outside of Auburn or Miss St.
As for Cecil being a representative of Cam, again, the NCAA has deemed that it wasn't enough, fair or unfair. And in the end, the NCAA is all that matters when making a final decision on the whole thing. What anyone else thinks doesn't mean squat.
We can all speculate all day on what we think happened and what we hope happened, but again, no one knows for sure except a very few people. If the NCAA comes out at a later date and says they have more info about the situation that is bad for Auburn/Cam, then so be it, but as of now the only person they've found that did any wrong doing is Cecil Newton. Well, Rogers too, but he's outside of Auburn or Miss St.
As for Cecil being a representative of Cam, again, the NCAA has deemed that it wasn't enough, fair or unfair. And in the end, the NCAA is all that matters when making a final decision on the whole thing. What anyone else thinks doesn't mean squat.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:06 am to WDE24
If this were Bama, they would already be on probation.
Just sayin'.
Just sayin'.
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