re: The Newton Rule?

This is such a joke. Cam is as innocent as O.J. Simpson. Everyone knows he is guilty, but because he is playing for the NC, it will get overlooked. The Barners need to be happy that they didn't lose a few games this year, because the NCAA would have dropped the hammer on this one.

P.S. What ever happened to Cam's quote to Miss St. that "the money was too much". I guess that is just hearsay. Such bullshite.

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Why no outrage?

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I think what Cecil did was wrong and he should be denied any access to AU or its football program. As for outrage, that is between Cecil and Cam.

Who cares. At this point. Every single person I know thinks Auburn is a POS program. The damage to the Auburn reputation is done.

Many predicted they would amend to rules to spell out any solicitation by any representative of a student athlete as a violation but the mere fact that they are doing this says that Cam's father violated that spirit of the rules. The NCAA has enough flexibility in reasonable interpretation of the rules in such situations to rule correctly based on intent. Their statement that there is not evidence that Cam was aware of his father's solicitation is irrelevant based on the existing rules. Nowhere is it specifically stated that the student-athlete must be aware of solicitation by his representative. If it was some Joe-Blow off the street who had no close connection with Cam the ruling would make sense but clearly a parent is a representative of their child unless legal action is taken to sever the relationship. Yes, this puts student-athletes with disreputable parents in a tough situation but the alternative is what we have with the current ruling: basically allowing a parent, Cecil Newton, to blatantly try to market his son's services.

Bottom line: the NCAA should have ruled Cam ineligible as clearly his representative, his father, Cecil Newton, was soliciting Cam's services. If there is no evidence, that either MSU or Auburn collaborated with the solicitation, then those institutions should not be penalized. As such, I would not vacate Auburn's previous wins but Cam should have been ineligible on the date of the ruling which would have meant he would not have been able to play in the Bama game forward. To do otherwise is a mockery of the spirit of the rules and any objective observer recognizes it.

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Can I get a link on this?

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LINK

may need a little editing- but not much. Enjoy your year, but get ready for your kids to be BAMA fans- maybe Troy fans?

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Every single person I know thinks Auburn is a POS program

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Well, that settles it.

We should lay on the train tracks and relegate ourselves to Vanderbilt status so that everyone that King knows, all six of them, look upon AU more favorably.

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Did the NCAA have any comments by Bush on tape that he knew his parents were getting a free house?

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So you're saying a kid not being aware that his dad had a conversation with someone on a telephone is the equivalent of a kid not being aware that his parents are living in a house 5-10x more expensive than they can afford?

That's the point there was nothing in the rulesthat statedthe player had to know; simply that a representative asked it made the player ineligible. Don't give any bullshite scenarios about Uncles or some long lost relative this was his daddy not some guy that calls himself his mentor either. His daddy cheated and Auburn knew what his daddy did they rolls the dive Cam wouldn't be ruled ineligible and got away with it. Just do everyone else a favor and quit trying to get everyone to go along with your naivity. Yall will believe your own bullshite but the rest of us aren't that stupid.

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Many predicted they would amend to rules to spell out any solicitation by any representative of a student athlete as a violation but the mere fact that there are doing this says that Cam's father violated that spirit of the rules. The NCAA has enough flexibility in reasonable interpretation of the rules in such situations to rule correctly based on intent. Their statement that there is not evidence that Cam was aware of his father's solicitation is irrelevant based on the existing rules. Nowhere is it specifically stated that the student-athlete must be aware of solicitation by his representative. If it was some Joe-Blow off the street who had no close connection with Cam the ruling would make sense but clearly a parent is a representative of their child unless legal action is taken to sever the relationship. Yes, this puts student-athletes with disreputable parents in a tough situation but the alternative is what we have with the current ruling: basically allowing a parent, Cecil Newton, to blatantly try to market his son's services.

Bottom line: the NCAA should have ruled Cam ineligible as clearly his representative, his father, Cecil Newton, was soliciting Cam's services. If there is no evidence, that either MSU or Auburn collaborated with the solicitation, then those institutions should not be penalized. As such, I would not vacate Auburn's previous wins but Cam should have been ineligible on the date of the ruling which would have meant he would not have been able to play in the Bama game forward. To do otherwise is a mockery of the spirit of the rules and any objective observer recognizes it.

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Well put davesdawgs. WDE24 just wants to keep his head in the sand. He and the rest of the AU nation know the situation smells, but look at AU's history. Have they ever had success without controversy. Go back to Shug's title in the fifties. What was around cheating and probation. Undefeated in '93. What was around. That crook coward Pat Dye running from 60 Minutes interviews and probation. Hell in '04 they had the hangover from JetGate. They are a two bit program in the shadow of a football deity to the west who bought success this year because that's the only way they know. As in the norm with AU football success comes with controversy.

CN wanted to go to Ms.State to be with C.Mullen. His dad said,no, you are going to Auburn where CM had NO connection. In what world does the son not ask his dad why cann't I go where I want? Whatever penalty comes the Newtons' ways is self deserved. Who really gets screwed are his teammates if anything is taken away from them because of something they had nothing to do with. The university is a business & they will survive and move on. The players who stand to lose the greatest season in their lives are the ones who lose the most of all..CN will make his millions, his dad will get his. And the 3rd string offensive lineman gets nadda.....