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re: The nation wants to see someone battle it out with an SEC team for the title...
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:45 am to Requiem For A Dawg
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:45 am to Requiem For A Dawg
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Football national champions at every level besides FBS is decided with a playoff.
I'm not on the FCS board.
I don't care what Wofford/Southeast Dakota State Tech and those teams do.
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Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:51 am to Chicken
I like the formula we have now for ranking the teams. The top six should be rewarded a playoff spot. 1 and 2 could have a buy week and wait to play the winners of 3 and 6 or 4 and 5. 3 weeks of playoffs. Top 6 rewarded. 
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:55 am to Mullen3:16
quote:how would games be less meaningful? most of your games are conferences games. The seeding would be based on your season long resume, which would account for all games. You could give home field advantage in the first round to the higher seeded teams, thus rewarding those with better records.
The fact that every game in the regular season actually means something?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:56 am to dallasga6
quote:you could easily add a requirement that you have to be in the top 12 to be considered for a spot. This would eliminate 4+ loss teams from getting in.
There's a decent chance of a 6-6 GT team making the ACCCG this year, if they upset FSU you'd have a 7-6 ACC team in the playoff. No way they would deserve a bid...
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:58 am to Chicken
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you could easily add a requirement that you have to be in the top 12 to be considered for a spot. This would eliminate 4+ loss teams from getting in.
That could theoretically eliminate a conference champion. So why not just take the top 4, or 6 as some suggest?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:04 am to Alahunter
quote:because we are trying to reduce bias! I would like to get away from writers and computers determining who plays in the title game.
That could theoretically eliminate a conference champion. So why not just take the top 4, or 6 as some suggest?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:05 am to Chicken
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Who's with me?
I'm in ...
Sir Royal Cluckster you are such a WISE
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:09 am to Chicken
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Again, I will stand by my idea that the playoffs should include 8 teams, and the champions from the five major conferences should get automatic bids. This will take college football to new heights and spread the interest geographically. Having three extra spots for at-large teams will reward the No. 2 teams in some of the conferences, and give independents like Notre Dame and schools from the smaller conferences a chance.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:12 am to vl100butch
quote:so the NFL season means nothing? I should stop watching then
on the other hand, in college football the regular season means something...
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:23 am to Chicken
I'm down Charlie Brown. 2014 is just gonna piss off teams 5-6 anyhow.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:27 am to Chicken
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There's a decent chance of a 6-6 GT team making the ACCCG this year, if they upset FSU you'd have a 7-6 ACC team in the playoff. No way they would deserve a bid...
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you could easily add a requirement that you have to be in the top 12 to be considered for a spot. This would eliminate 4+ loss teams from getting in.
I think this would be a must of an 8 team playoff that included 5 conference champions and 3 at large teams. I would also be fine without the conference champion requirement just based on the top 8 teams according to BCS rankings (the way they are determined now). If a team is not in the top 8 that wins one of the 5 conferences mentioned at the end of the year, they probably don't deserve to be in, as they probably had a poor regular season and you do not want to diminish the regular season.
All that said, a 4 team playoff is a must and coming and I think we will eventually have an 8 team playoff. The major concern is to make sure the importance of the regular season is not diminished. It is not at all with a 4 team playoff, in fact it becomes more important overall as 4 teams still have a shot at year end. An 8 team playoff is about the max (IMO) to where you start to trade off the regular season importance of every game for the playoff.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:29 am to Chicken
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because we are trying to reduce bias! I would like to get away from writers and computers determining who plays in the title game.
Understandable. But truly, who out of the top 4 in the last several yrs, do you think deserved a shot at the NC at the end of the year?
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:35 am to Chicken
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Who's with me?
Like the idea but I don't want to see starters sitting the bench during rivalry games because one team has already locked up a spot. Similar to the NFL. And if conference champs get an automatic bid, then either all or none of the conferences should have CCG.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:39 am to Mullen3:16
First of all, don't watch the National Championship game if you think it will be boring...Second, I agree with the rest
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:42 am to crimsonsaint
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then either all or none of the conferences should have CCG
This also. Everything needs to be equal across the board in how many games are played at the very least.
If that were required, then you'd probably be one step closer to 4 superconferences of 16 teams each. At that point, you could have four divisions in each conference, and a playoff in each conference for champion, with the four winners of the conferences playing for a NC.
For example.. the SEC could have
North Division
NC State
S Carolina
Kentucky
Tennessee
East Division
Florida
Georgia
Clemson
Auburn
South Division
Bama
Ole Miss
Lsu
Miss St
West Division
Aggies
Arky
Vandy
Mizzou
Winners of each division play in a seeded playoff for Conference Champ. Conference Champ plays winners of other other 3 Conferences for NC and they have an exact set up. With this setup, you would have 1 permanent opponent from each division, still allowing traditional rivalries, and then rotate 3 additional per year.
This post was edited on 11/13/12 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:46 am to Chicken
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Again, I will stand by my idea that the playoffs should include 8 teams, and the champions from the five major conferences should get automatic bids. This will take college football to new heights and spread the interest geographically. Having three extra spots for at-large teams will reward the No. 2 teams in some of the conferences, and give independents like Notre Dame and schools from the smaller conferences a chance.
Chicken, I love you more than catfish (and I really like catfish, especially with okra) but I draw the line at 4 teams! Here are some reasons why :
+ The NCAA has watered the field down in basketball as they head into a 128 team tournament. The fans are not showing up for the early games and it has made the regular season meaningless. Throw in the conference tourneys and they have driven away the demand for the regular season.
+ High Def TV's and a changing demographic means fewer future fans to travel for the extra game. It is one thing to sell out a MNC game, and it is probable to sell out a "Final Four" game but good luck getting all but historic "brands" to send fans on the road 3 weeks in a row. I have stopped traveling for the early rounds of the NCAA because of travel cost and extortion level ticket prices. I just go to Sweet Sixteen's and Final Four's now. If costs continue to rise I will probably drop out and stay home. I am hearing this more and more from some real die hard fans across the country.
+ We are determining a National Champion and except for 1 or 2 years in the entire BCS (4) slots are plenty. Last year LSU was the only undefeated team in the regular season and played the toughest schedule in the land [SEC + CCG + Big East champ + PAC champ] and they do not have a crystal football in the trophy case to show for it. Suppose LSU was undefeated in the future and a 3 loss PAC school slipped in in slot #8. What is the reward for LSU playing the better season? This year a 4-6 Indiana had a shot at the B1G CCG before Wisconsin took them down this past weekend. Had they beaten the badgers and gone on to with the B1G CCG you would have had a 7-6 IU team in your 8 team playoff. Good god man, it would set new lows on college football standards.
+ With the Big East falling from AQ status that leaves only 5 conferences as a serious threat to claim a MNC. Until the B12 plays a CCG like the other 4 they should only get in with an exceptional team. Notre Dame is independent in name only as the ACC got 5 games a year which the Big East never did. In a decade when the older ND fans die off you will see the Irish as a full ACC member. Again, a school can win the CCG and still be worse than the loser so why reward mediocracy?
There are many other reasons but this is getting too long already.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:50 am to Alahunter
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For example.. the SEC could have
North Division
Vandy
Kentucky
Tennessee
Virginia Tech
East Division
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
NC State
South Division
Bama
Ole Miss
Auburn
Miss St
West Division
Aggies
Arky
LSU
Mizzou
More than likely it'll be like this
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:51 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:the nation will not want the SEC to have 4 or 5 of the top 8 teams, like this season...I think my idea is just more fair.
I would also be fine without the conference champion requirement just based on the top 8 teams according to BCS rankings (the way they are determined now).
There are many good teams outside the Top 8 this season...the notion that the BCS top 8 right now are truly the best 8 teams is a farce.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:52 am to McRebel42
I just threw in a couple of teams to fill out the scenario.
Posted on 11/13/12 at 9:53 am to crimsonsaint
quote:if seeding and potential home field advantage is on the line, I doubt teams will be sandbagging it...
Like the idea but I don't want to see starters sitting the bench during rivalry games because one team has already locked up a spot.
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