re: The Most Awesome Thread about CamGate

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The REC dude. We control all that. Remember?

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Of course! How could I have forgotten?

There are way too many posts in this thread for me to go back and quote the different things I want to respond to, so Bob I am sorry this isn't a direct response to your question, but I will put these two things out there.

Someone asked how, with as much bad publicity as he has gotten over the last few years, Lowder is still associated with Auburn University. The quick and simple answer is because he is well connected politically. The members of the AU board of trustees are not chosen by the university - they are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the state legislature or something to that effect. Being a state school of higher education, the state builds the board of trustees and they then choose the president of the univeristy and have oversight, influence on the operations of the school. Lowder has enough political connections in the capital (what do people with tons of money do, they donate large sums of money to political campaigns) that even when the shite hit the fan a few years ago, he was able to stay in power on the BoT. His term was supposed to be up several years ago, but the governor and legislature changed the law so that he could be appointed for another term. Trust me, there are a huge number of Auburn stakeholders (students, alumni, employees) that would love to see Lowder gone, but until his friends are no longer in power in Montgomery he will have the help he needs to stay right where he is.

As for how a SACS issue would impact Auburn's membership in the SEC...I don't know if they SEC would officially boot the school from the league, but a school that loses accreditation from the agency that accredits it (in the southeast that would be SACS) is automatically disqualified from participating in any sport overseen by the NCAA. Auburn's entire athletics program - football, baseball, baseketball, swimming, the works - would be reduced to club teams for whatever length of time the university itself was without accreditation.

The other big impact of loss of accreditation from SACS would be that current students that receive any form of federal financial aid would lose that immediately. Graduates, and even current students who are enrolled and graduate in a disaccreditation period would not be as bad off because the quality of an Auburn education is recognized, especially in the southeast. Having Auburn on your resume wouldn't be an automatic strike against you, especially in the south. Now in other parts of the country they might look at you a little tougher, and certainly admission to graduate or doctorial programs would be much more difficult.

Edited for typo - with should have read without.

If it only affected athletics, this action might be appropriate, but in this day and age i cant see them letting something like this affect the student body.

Yup, at least that is my understanding. I was a student at AU during the previous SACS go 'round and that was the word that was circulated then.

Also, the main reason SACS put AU on probation was micromanagement by the board of trustees, especially Bobby Lowder. Two examples that stood out were his/the boards "hands on" approach to the athletic department and - the one that galled me the most - Lowder attempted to have the editor of the student newspaper removed from her position after she wrote an opinion column critical of him when the questions of board oversight first came up.

I'm not even totally sure where the Tuesday stuff came from, except for the fact that Bond I guess is supposed to meet with them. I would be surprised if anything came out so quickly. But if something did come out I assume it would be something different, not having to do so much with that interview. And for what its worth the W&L guy never mentioned Tuesday or any time this week, at least on the post we've all read.

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And finally, if leadership can be brought to the forefront, (and yes, this is the only prediction about which I cannot put forth what I consider strong evidence), you will be kicked out of the Southeastern Conference in a unanimous vote.

[quote] This guy is credible?

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Yea - I saw that too. Charter members of the SEC can not be removed; they can only go if they choose to (GT and Tulane). Furthermore, a unanimous vote would mean Auburn would vote themselves out. Pretty preposterous claim.

This thread is depressing...

Yes. They were tying in the original content posted by this WL person. He stated that they could/would be removed from the SEC. Outlandish, but if everything being stated concerning money laundering through AU, etc is correct they very well could lose their accreditation-thus possibly being removed from the SEC. Still pretty far fetched though.

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I know for a fact the REC has "friends" in the FBI....

God I love being an Alabama fan!

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Why does this comment invoke the following personal thought.

Were bama....we cheat and dont get in trouble/caught.