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re: The criticism LF7 is receiving from his performance against Bama is absurd.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
And LF7 has ran against 3. The frick difference does it make? Under both measure, Henry is beating LF7.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:50 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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He is using ranked teams that were ranked when they played them.
Henry has ran against 2 teams that are currently ranked
Forget ranked. Look at the rushing defenses Henry has faced compared to LF. I still think LF is better but the gap isn't quite as wide as you think.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:53 pm to 1BamaRTR
That guy is saying Bama didn't stack the box. We know they didn't stack the box. Good teams don't stack the box. They ran a 5-2 or 4-3 and run blitzed and it worked fantastically. It was 100% built around stoping the run. I think people are getting the impression that Bama just played cover 2 all night and dominated and that isn't accurate. A good QB with a halfway decent scheme would have moved the ball and the run game would have opened up substantially.
When you have zero pass threat beyond the long ball, the defense is selling out on the run.
When you have zero pass threat beyond the long ball, the defense is selling out on the run.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:55 pm to Kcoyote
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You can count either measure, either ranked when played or ranked currently and Henry is averaging more yards per carry and a better yards/game with more TDs.
I love all the qualifiers you bama fans use.
Say what you want but Henry has 2 games better than LF'S worst game.
LF has rushed for less than 150 yards, once.
Henry has rushed for under 100 yards 3 times and under 150 yards 5 times.
Henry has 3 games of over 5.5 ypc.
LF has 7 games of over 5.5 ypc.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:56 pm to Rickdaddy4188
LF
3 games 78 rushes 370 yds 4.74 ypc 6 TD's 123.33 ypg
DH
2 games 51 rushes 357 yds 7 ypc 6 TD's 178.50 ypg
3 games 78 rushes 370 yds 4.74 ypc 6 TD's 123.33 ypg
DH
2 games 51 rushes 357 yds 7 ypc 6 TD's 178.50 ypg
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:57 pm to Kcoyote
There is enough info to equally compare Henry and LF, agreed. Oddly, this week features the first time either have played a common opponent.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
A 5-2 covered the point of attack, you're correct. And technically you're right in that it is designed to stop the run. However, it doesn't mean that Alabama did anything special. They just played a different base. A different base isn't something that should stop a Heisman candidate running back and make him average a yard per carry.
But I see your point. Schematically, they didn't run a 3-4 with linebackers rushing. They threw down up front. Still doesn't mean they "sold out" as that implies corners were on islands and safeties were running straight in.
Hell LSU should have put 3-4 wides out sometimes and maybe things would have been different.
It should also be pointed out that this was probably Smart's best game in terms of play calling. He rushed in Tim Williams when we knew Harris was throwing, and avoided making the mistake of running CB blitzes to the QB. It was just a thing of beauty to watch him know exactly what LSU was going to do before they even did it. His 5-2 base on run plays is an example of that, and they ran it on I think 16 of the 19 runs.
But I see your point. Schematically, they didn't run a 3-4 with linebackers rushing. They threw down up front. Still doesn't mean they "sold out" as that implies corners were on islands and safeties were running straight in.
Hell LSU should have put 3-4 wides out sometimes and maybe things would have been different.
It should also be pointed out that this was probably Smart's best game in terms of play calling. He rushed in Tim Williams when we knew Harris was throwing, and avoided making the mistake of running CB blitzes to the QB. It was just a thing of beauty to watch him know exactly what LSU was going to do before they even did it. His 5-2 base on run plays is an example of that, and they ran it on I think 16 of the 19 runs.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:59 pm to Bootycall
Y'all trolled everyone about how good he is and how he'd run all over their D when many people said it wasn't likely....so basically every freaking LSU fan that ran their mouths deserves to hear it again and again....
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:02 pm to Dawgfanman
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So according to those blaming the OL in this game it wasn't LF7 who bears the blame for lack of production..but when he has great production it is LF7 who gets the credit..good setup he has there
LF7 gives his OL the credit all the time. Why else do you think LSU fans were overrating the OL? Calling them best in the nation, etc.
Don't be low IQ
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:09 pm to Kcoyote
Meh. It's semantics at this point. I just want to clear up that you guys were scheming run 100% of the time (which IMO is selling out) and to do otherwise would have been stupid. We would have moved the ball on the ground much better if the linebackers would have had to respect the slant and curl and the ends would have needed to get penetration every now and then.
You can't give a defense that good a whole extra week to prepare and come out running nothing but exactly what they wanted you to run. You could have inserted any college running back into that game for Fournette and they would have gotten crushed. That was the best run defense I've ever seen coupled with horrible offensive scheming to counter it.
You can't give a defense that good a whole extra week to prepare and come out running nothing but exactly what they wanted you to run. You could have inserted any college running back into that game for Fournette and they would have gotten crushed. That was the best run defense I've ever seen coupled with horrible offensive scheming to counter it.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:15 pm to Bootycall
LSU's passing game sucks...teams with good defensive players will shut down LSU's offense. Don't know why people thought LSU would win a national title. Shut down the running game, LSU is done.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:17 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
You're right, it's semantics.
However it wasn't 100% scheming run (on all the offensive plays I mean, on the run plays, yeah it was mostly 5-2), on the 19 pass attempts Harris threw, Alabama was not always in 5-2. They went back to 3-4 a good chunk of the time.
That's why I was saying it was just an extremely impressive playcalling game by Smart. He switched the D so many times to fit what was the likely attack by LSU. And he did it so well that his defense only allowed 6 passes and made the running back average 1.6 ypc.
This isn't a slight against LF7, more on the playcalling of Miles, as it was just never going to work in Alabama. Shut down LF7, shut down the entire offense. They had to give Harris more opportunities and open the run game up. I mean seriously, does LSU only have 2 wideouts? I can't remember a time when they threw 3 or 4 out wide.
However it wasn't 100% scheming run (on all the offensive plays I mean, on the run plays, yeah it was mostly 5-2), on the 19 pass attempts Harris threw, Alabama was not always in 5-2. They went back to 3-4 a good chunk of the time.
That's why I was saying it was just an extremely impressive playcalling game by Smart. He switched the D so many times to fit what was the likely attack by LSU. And he did it so well that his defense only allowed 6 passes and made the running back average 1.6 ypc.
This isn't a slight against LF7, more on the playcalling of Miles, as it was just never going to work in Alabama. Shut down LF7, shut down the entire offense. They had to give Harris more opportunities and open the run game up. I mean seriously, does LSU only have 2 wideouts? I can't remember a time when they threw 3 or 4 out wide.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:28 pm to ACL11190
It takes more attempts to create a rhythm when your playing the best defense in the nation. The kid needed 40, because the run obviously wasn't the right choice.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:32 pm to Kcoyote
We've got a few receivers we don't use.
We won't win any games that we don't dominate in the trenches, and you don't dominate teams like Bama. You might win, but you won't dominate. You really have to blast the dline off the ball for pulling guards to be able to hit the 2nd level and that happened maybe twice in scrub time.
It's frustrating to watch Leonard Fournette get ripped apart for what was really an arse whipping across the board.
We won't win any games that we don't dominate in the trenches, and you don't dominate teams like Bama. You might win, but you won't dominate. You really have to blast the dline off the ball for pulling guards to be able to hit the 2nd level and that happened maybe twice in scrub time.
It's frustrating to watch Leonard Fournette get ripped apart for what was really an arse whipping across the board.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:42 pm to bama1959
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You guys are living in last year.
Bama has been "living in last year" since 2012.
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That's why your team sucking arse this year.
No, our team "sucks arse" because we've been starting our 3rd string QB all season.
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The 2014 OSU team doesn't exist anymore. OSU 2015 looks like FSU 2014.
This is stupid. No they don't. They look nearly the same after nine games as they did last year. Everyone just got used to seeing them put 42 on Bama, 59 on Wisconsin, etc.
PPG F-A 2014: 46-22
PPG F-A 2015: 37-15
2014: Rushing - 433 carries for 2,342 yds (5.4 yds avg.) and 24 TDs
2015: Rushing - 380 carries for 2,165 yards (5.7 yds avg.) and 26 TDs
2014: Receiving - 158 receptions for 2,267 yds (14.3 yds avg.) and 28 TDs
2015: Receiving - 150 receptions for 1,928 yds (12.9 yds avg.) and 15 TDs
2014: 3 Defense/Special Teams Touchdowns
2015: 4 Defense/Special Teams Touchdowns
2014: 7 Interceptions Thrown and 7 Fumbles Lost
2015: 7 Interceptions Thrown and 8 Fumbles Lost
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And our 2015 team is better than our 2014 team.
I've heard that somewhere before...
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It's hard to repeat.
Finally, we agree on something.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No, our team "sucks arse" because we've been starting our 3rd string QB all season.
Who are the two QBs ahead of him?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:48 pm to SammyTiger
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Leonard fortunate still leads the SEC in rushing yards.
Henry - 218 1254 5.8ypc 17TD
LF7 - 195 1383 7.1ypc 16TD
But Henry has more TDs than LF7 - If you ask me they are pretty damn balanced
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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That was last year. Bama's run defense is far better this year than last year.
Far better? No, not really. A little better up to this point in the season? Sure.
2014: 2.8 YPA, 88.7 YPG, 3 TDs
2015: 2.5 YPA, 75.8 YPG, 5 TDs
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:13 pm to GTSwarms
less yards more carries not balanced.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 10:21 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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his is stupid. No they don't. They look nearly the same after nine games as they did last year. Everyone just got used to seeing them put 42 on Bama, 59 on Wisconsin, etc.
PPG F-A 2014: 46-22
PPG F-A 2015: 37-15
2014: Rushing - 433 carries for 2,342 yds (5.4 yds avg.) and 24 TDs
2015: Rushing - 380 carries for 2,165 yards (5.7 yds avg.) and 26 TDs
2014: Receiving - 158 receptions for 2,267 yds (14.3 yds avg.) and 28 TDs
2015: Receiving - 150 receptions for 1,928 yds (12.9 yds avg.) and 15 TDs
2014: 3 Defense/Special Teams Touchdowns
2015: 4 Defense/Special Teams Touchdowns
2014: 7 Interceptions Thrown and 7 Fumbles Lost
2015: 7 Interceptions Thrown and 8 Fumbles Lost
All those stats against one of the weakest schedules of any team outside the Big12. The entire Bama nation wants a rematch with you guys. It feels like 2009 vs Meyer's UF team. We want you to make it. We would prefer the final game but we'll take you in the first again if we have to.
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