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Hauling, towing, sales vehicles?

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Field service vehicles mostly, a few parts runner trucks and vans. 3/4 ton gas burners, 3/4 ton diesels, 1 ton gas burners and diesels, 4500 series gas and diesel, and 5500 series, almost all diesels.

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Are they replaced after a mileage point, time or run till not fixable? Are they assigned to a single driver or many?

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All the field service trucks are single driver. We used to replace them at 250k miles, these days its more like 250k miles or major failure, whichever comes first. Some are kept past that.

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Your premise that diesel longevity is not a selling point goes against everything i have ever read or witnessed. Granted my experience with 3/4 diesels are with my 5.9 Cummins and friends International/Ford 7.3 only. Both I would say are the best diesels ever put in a pickup. But I will admit I have no knowledge of diesels past the 5.9 and doubt I ever will.

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Odds are the rotating assembly of the engine will still last forever but the fuel systems and emissions controls systems are outrageously expensive to repair. Sprinkle in some complex electronics and the repair bills can get massive quickly.

So while they technically might last longer, the cost of ownership will be higher, sometimes drastically higher, in most cases.

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plan to get one for the AR first

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Excellent idea. Just do a lot of research on what the options are vs what you want to accomplish.

Its because the supersonic crack is not very loud. Its dependent on the size of the object, doppler effect, etc. Bare muzzle, the muzzle blast is so deafening that everything sounds way different.

I know an AR15 with an OCM5 is maybe quieter than a supersonic .22 lr rifle. Definitely quieter than a 17hmr rifle. Easily hearing safe for occasional shots.

If you screw a supressor on a supersonic centerfire rifle expecting Hollywood pew sounds, youre going to be disappointed. If you do it expecting to be able to shoot at a deer without getting your ears split open and your brains rattled out, you'll be very happy.

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quieter but not quiet.

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Not Hollywood quiet but the good ones are pretty damn not loud.

[quote]Ford 7.3 or 6.8.[/quote

How is the 6.8 holding up?

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He is lying

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I drove it and got 18.2mpg on a round trip unloaded.

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Under 10 mpg towing typically.

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We averaged 11.9 on a round trip to Colorado towing 6,200 lbs. Fair bit of mountains on that trip.

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they also last longer

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No they dont

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You keep trying to make the point that gas 3/4 ton is BETTER than a diesel 3/4 ton and you can't.

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I can, without even bringing money into tbe discussion. Gas 3/4 tons have far higher payload capacity and are more reliable. Done.

Bring money into the discussion and its a cakewalk. Ive done fleet vehicle work. Best case on a 3/4 ton diesel when its all said and done you do as well as a gas truck on total cost of ownership at 250k service truck miles, a use case the general public thinks is taylor made for diesels. Worst case, you shite a fuel pump and put $12k of repairs into it and the exhaust fails right after and you put another $6k in it and then the def pump fails and you put another $3k in it...

You get the point. Ive seen the data.

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No it doesn't. At best it may get 16 mpg pure highway.

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My buddys averages around 18mpg.

How many of you 3/4 to diesel drivers have scaled the stuff you tow with it? If you actually tow anything that warrants a 3/4 ton truck, youre probably overloading it.

How many of you have actually worked up the total cost of ownership of that great axle twisting turbo diesel? You're into that thing for tens of thousands of dollars more than a comparable gas truck would have costed you by now.

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Getting a 3/4 ton with a gas is the same thing as getting a Camaro or mustang with a V6.

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This is such a rediculous take, but Ford and GM will gladly take your giant stack of money and sell you that big bad arse diesel you dont need at all.

He seems to know more than the average cane truck driver to me, but good luck.

He makes good points. You shouldnt buy a subdivision house in the middle of a cane field and then bitch about what the cane farmers are doing.

My only gripe with it is that we use really good dirt for a crop that doesnt require really good dirt. Bulldoze some of those shitty solar farms and grow the cane there. Use the good dirt for grass for beef. I want less sugar and more ribeyes.

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Which one would you buy and why?

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Why do you need a 3/4 to? Few people do. It really only exists to have a 10,000 lb GVWR for commercial purposes. Otherwise, 3/4 ton is a bastard slot. 3/4 ton diesel even more so.

Chevrolet/GMC gas burner is what id get.

The 6.4 hemi is a piece of shite. The new cummins is brand spaking new an unproven, but has ventured away from what made the old 6.7 great and is a liability.

Fords gas engines have lifter problems. Supposedly fixed now, but not much data out there yet. 6.7 powerstroke is OK, but costs a fortune to work on.

6.6 duramax is ok, but also costs a fortune.

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think he just simps for them

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Probably not a good idea to get into a battle of wits with submoa, especially when it comes to farming, and doubly so when its cane farming, unless you enjoy having your arse handed to you.

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