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re: The BIG 10 is destroying itself, geographically.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:08 am to BuckI
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:08 am to BuckI
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They could but they did not have the foresight the B1G leaders have. Now that the B1G has all the brands that matter on the West Coast, no one else can do it.
They 100% could still do it.
Did something heavy fall on your head?
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:10 am to New Hampshire Tiger
I mean. They’ll add tu one day. They’ll be in the Midwest, California, Florida, and Texas. Visionary conference that I don’t think is great for the sport, but smart for them.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:11 am to Eldodroptop
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The B1G is on the cusp of holding New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.
Don’t forget Atlanta- media market #7 and a top place to live for BIG alum
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:12 am to BamaGradinTn
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Guess which game drew more viewers this year...the Egg Bowl or Cal-UCLA. Again...you know the answer. Ole Miss-Miss.State: 2.29M Cal-UCLA: 1.66M
Pumps viewerships numbers and cherry picks random game yet again even though SEC tv package is 4 BILLION less than B1G.
Again , you cant fix stupid even though numbers and ad dollars for networks clearly show B1G is almost worth 2.3x the amount to networks
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:15 am to New Hampshire Tiger
The truth is that nobody knows what the future holds. It’s all new territory hardly any precedent. Both B10 and SEC football were built on regional and state pride. Rivals became rivals over decades (some played for over a century). Rivalries and conferences formed organically, they weren’t forced into existence by outside influences like TV networks and conference expansion. So, who knows how it will play out? I for one don’t like the direction of college football. I don’t think it’s going to under, it’s here to stay. But, I fear the powers that be will undermine the rich history of college football. Hell, it started a while ago. I miss the great Oklahoma/ Nebraska games of my childhood. Texas and aTm should have never stopped playing (I’m thrilled it’s back). It’s a damn shame that Bedlam is gone! If Ole Miss and LSU ever quit playing, it would be a tragedy! Is Georgia/Auburn safe? How about ND/USC? What if some future network with a Big10 contract decides it wants Ohio State and USC instead, so it doesn’t have to pay ND? In short, nothing is sacred to those who only see the bottom line and short term goals.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:17 am to TexasOnTop
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A. I don’t know what the TV package revenue has to do with any of this. B. The OP said “20 years” I don’t know for sure, but I assume that contract isn’t a 20 year contract.
It’s for 10 years. It’s just the sheer stupidity thinking Big 10 will implode bc they added 4 west coast schools with massive brands that will only increase dollars to the conference to make it even more powerful after this 10 year deal is up. SEC might have the best competition but it’s not the most powerful or most lucrative conference by any means. You can’t be destroyed if you’re conference is already worth 2.3x that of the second best conference in terms of revenue , tv rights etc.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:23 am to New Hampshire Tiger
I mean how regional is the SEC now? A plane ride from Gainesville to Austin is 3 hours.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:24 am to Bird_Hunter
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SEC might have the best competition but it’s not the most powerful or most lucrative conference by any means. You can’t be destroyed if you’re conference is already worth 2.3x that of the second best conference in terms of revenue , tv rights etc.
So, you're telling me that more people are interested in who has more $ than who has better athletics?
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:25 am to New Hampshire Tiger
I get what they are trying to do and maybe it works but man these schools have nothing in common
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:27 am to jonnyanony
quote:None of the SEC's big brands are going to play late at night. And no one will watch the lesser brands in that time slot. So your idea will never happen. Just admit the B1G put the clown suit on the SEC on this one.
They 100% could still do it.
Did something heavy fall on your head?
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:27 am to ChiGator
Well, next year the B1G will be 3 TIME ZONES.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:30 am to BuckI
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None of the SEC's big brands are going to play late at night
Maybe, maybe not. But that's not what you said.
Ask yourself this: why is the latest NFL game 8:00 EST?
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:33 am to BuckI
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The B1G has plans for the Southeast. It is all a matter of time.
agree with this.
the fact that they expanded out west is proof that the B1G want a national conference from coast to coast.
I expect UNC, Duke, and one of FSU/Miami will be in the B1G before the end of the decade.
SEC will likely get Clemson and whoever is left from FSU/Miami
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:39 am to jonnyanony
quote:I stand by what I said.
Maybe, maybe not. But that's not what you said.
quote:This is apples and oranges. The NFL plays on Sunday night when most people have to get up early the next day and work while CFB is on Saturday nights when people stay up. Apples and oranges.
Ask yourself this: why is the latest NFL game 8:00 EST?
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:41 am to BuckI
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I stand by what I said.
Makes sense, as what you said is moronic.
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This is apples and oranges. The NFL plays on Sunday night when most people have to get up early the next day and work while CFB is on Saturday nights when people stay up. Apples and oranges.
Really? Check out the viewership on 9EST games last season versus 7EST.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:54 am to jonnyanony
quote:What do you not understand? The SEC cannot run late-night contests for multiple reasons. And West Coast viewers will only watch their schools and their new conference rivals in the B1G.
Makes sense, as what you said is moronic.
No one will watch Cal and Stanford and no one on the East or West Coast cares about the Big 12.
quote:I'm not arguing late night time slots are as valuable as prime time and the B1G never demanded prime-time money for late-night games. But the networks gave the B1G a big boost in revenue for the time slot so the B1G came out the winner in expansion.
Really? Check out the viewership on 9EST games last season versus 7EST.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 11:57 am to BuckI
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The SEC cannot run late-night contests for multiple reasons.
They absolutely could. They don't, because ...
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I'm not arguing late night time slots are as valuable as prime time
It's not a valuable time slot. Which is why only locally relevant games air in this spot. Which makes the whole "haha we have all time zones" ... moronic.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 12:07 pm to BuckI
Like a lot of conferences, the Big 10 was caught flat footed when the SEC added Oklahoma and Texas.
Suddenly the SEC has 7 of the top 10 programs in revenue.
They didn't add USC and Oregon because of the time zone, they added them despite it. It's a liability but they're banking on it being worth it and they had to do *something* after getting surprised like that.
Suddenly the SEC has 7 of the top 10 programs in revenue.
They didn't add USC and Oregon because of the time zone, they added them despite it. It's a liability but they're banking on it being worth it and they had to do *something* after getting surprised like that.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 12:16 pm to jonnyanony
quote:Because they would lose money at the gate and TV revenue and crime. I would be afraid to be out after dark in Michigan.
They absolutely could. They don't, because .
quote:Actually, it turned out to be valuable and the B1G's TV deal proved that. The B1G now has content for all time slots which will make them even more valuable in the future. Plus, West Coast viewers will watch traditional B1G games and we will watch them.
It's not a valuable time slot. Which is why only locally relevant games air in this spot. Which makes the whole "haha we have all time zones" ... moronic.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 12:18 pm to BuckI
"Actually, it's valuable" is not a substantive rebuttal.
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