Started By
Message
The B10, ACC and P12 should form a 20 team rival conference
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:06 am
Act right now and make a rival conference of 20 to rival what the SEC is doing. Fold those conferences and leave and start an American College Football Conference, get to 20 before the SEC beats you to the punch and targets 4 more great teams:
OSU
Penn St
Notre Dame
Nebraska
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan St
Clemson
Florida St
North Carolina
NCST
VT
Virginia
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Utah
Cal
Colorado
That is on par with the new SEC and would get just as good ratings.
OSU
Penn St
Notre Dame
Nebraska
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan St
Clemson
Florida St
North Carolina
NCST
VT
Virginia
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Utah
Cal
Colorado
That is on par with the new SEC and would get just as good ratings.
8
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:15 am to BurgTiger
You cannot leave Pitt and Syracuse out of the mix.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:19 am to 4Ghost
A third league of 20 would form that would be regional of unlucky middle class and lower teams of something like:
Duke
Georgia Tech
Miami
Rutgers
Pit
Syracuse
Illinois
Northwestern
kansas
kansas state
Iowa state
Tech
Baylor
TCU
Washington St
Arizona
Arizona St
Minnesota
West Virginia
Houston
Duke
Georgia Tech
Miami
Rutgers
Pit
Syracuse
Illinois
Northwestern
kansas
kansas state
Iowa state
Tech
Baylor
TCU
Washington St
Arizona
Arizona St
Minnesota
West Virginia
Houston
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:24 am to BurgTiger
quote:
That is on par with the new SEC and would get just as good ratings.
No it isn't and wouldn't
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:32 am to BurgTiger
Moronic
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:35 am to Bjorn Cyborg
How do? This is all truly about money, it’s the only move that would guarantee those 20 teams close to the same amount of money.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:45 am to BurgTiger
There is a point of diminishing returns on conference expansion. I think 16 is pushing it, but is manageable and there will be geographic continuity and natural rivalries.
What you are suggesting would never happen, and never actually even be discussed by serious people.
What you are suggesting would never happen, and never actually even be discussed by serious people.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:46 am to BurgTiger
Pit and Miami don't historically belong down like that. That would suck
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:59 am to BurgTiger
The BIG currently has the most lucrative TV deal in CFB.
What would they gain by this? You think their revenue increases with these added teams?
What would they gain by this? You think their revenue increases with these added teams?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:04 pm to RD Dawg
Would love to structure college football like England does soccer.
24 team Premier League
24 team Championship League
24 team next league
24 team next league
Bottom 4 teams move down
Top 4 teams move up
Only play teams from your league.
24 team Premier League
24 team Championship League
24 team next league
24 team next league
Bottom 4 teams move down
Top 4 teams move up
Only play teams from your league.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:17 pm to BurgTiger
I don't know if this is joking or not, but the Big 10 has to be terrified.
If you add Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC, then the SEC has 14 of the last 20 national titles.
If the SEC can pry Clemson and Florida State out of the ACC, you get that number up to 18 of the last 21 (starting with Tennessee in 1998).
Why that's important- with the FIL and other rulings regarding players, the idea of player safety might become a big issue soon. Too many games, in addition to player revenue for the added playoffs.
One possible answer is- drop the playoffs.
Before you laugh and boo, consider- the SEC is getting damn close to being able to claim it's champ IS the champ. You steal those two ACC teams in addition, and ONLY Ohio State could lay claim to any "we deserve to be there too" shot. And the SEC could then say, if you want to play, you gotta join us.
I don't think this is just revising the SEC, I think it's the SEC deciding it can make a bid to replace the NCAA.
If you add Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC, then the SEC has 14 of the last 20 national titles.
If the SEC can pry Clemson and Florida State out of the ACC, you get that number up to 18 of the last 21 (starting with Tennessee in 1998).
Why that's important- with the FIL and other rulings regarding players, the idea of player safety might become a big issue soon. Too many games, in addition to player revenue for the added playoffs.
One possible answer is- drop the playoffs.
Before you laugh and boo, consider- the SEC is getting damn close to being able to claim it's champ IS the champ. You steal those two ACC teams in addition, and ONLY Ohio State could lay claim to any "we deserve to be there too" shot. And the SEC could then say, if you want to play, you gotta join us.
I don't think this is just revising the SEC, I think it's the SEC deciding it can make a bid to replace the NCAA.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:39 pm to Scoob
quote:
I think it's the SEC deciding it can make a bid to replace the NCAA.
Why? The NCAA already has nothing to do with conference realignments,CFB playoffs or CFB revenue.They're pretty much a shadow organization when it comes to P5 CFB.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:44 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Why? Power, of course.quote:
I think it's the SEC deciding it can make a bid to replace the NCAA.
Why? The NCAA already has nothing to do with conference realignments,CFB playoffs or CFB revenue.They're pretty much a shadow organization when it comes to P5 CFB.
You've already pointed out, the NCAA has been weakened. It's getting to the point where it's no longer necessary, and carries a lot of baggage.
You establish a new top tier of CFB (the new SEC or whatever you name it), and they can conceivably change rules the NCAA has in place. And if the NCAA doesn't like it, so what?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:54 pm to Scoob
quote:
Why? Power, of course.
What power? And do you really want the SEC regulating and sponsoring all those championships in softball,volleyball and all those other sports in other divisions?
It's a waste of time and resources.
quote:
and they can conceivably change rules the NCAA has in place.
What specific rules do you want changed?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:15 pm to RD Dawg
You are leaving out Wisconsin and they are probably top five on that list
This list is shite
This list is shite
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:20 pm to BurgTiger
Lol at a Missouri fan calling any other teams middle or lower class
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:32 pm to RD Dawg
quote:
What power? And do you really want the SEC regulating and sponsoring all those championships in softball,volleyball and all those other sports in other divisions?
quote:It's not about what I want.
What specific rules do you want changed?
I think things were fine. I liked the bowl setup before the BCS, and I liked the original BCS layout. I liked having the Big 8, SWC and Eastern independents (Penn State, Pitt, WVU, BC, Syracuse etc). That's all gone.
The SEC could very well be making a play to take over college football, basically make it a club level type (outside the NCAA's control) but with a ton of money involved. You remove the NCAA, and you would remove all the lower-level NCAA programs from having any say in the matter. Schools outside your group get zero say in what you do. You don't have to listen to the Sun Belt (or Pac 12, for that matter) whine about what you're doing, because they're no longer a partner at any level. If they want in, they have to join- and you can choose who does, and who does not.
If you think Oregon is worth it, let them apply. And if UCF complains, tell them they're in the NCAA, not the SEC.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:13 pm to BurgTiger
Hearing a lot of speculation that we could end up with thee Super Conferences when it is said and done. My guess is Big 10, SEC and PAC 12, maybe?
If the ACC can convince Notre Dame to join them fully, they could possibly pick up some of the Big 12 and survive. It will be interesting to see if anybody goes after some teams from the smaller conferences like Cincinnati or UCF.
If Texas and Oklahoma definitely come to the SEC, there will be a huge scramble for the remaining teams and the BIG 12 will just go away.
If the ACC can convince Notre Dame to join them fully, they could possibly pick up some of the Big 12 and survive. It will be interesting to see if anybody goes after some teams from the smaller conferences like Cincinnati or UCF.
If Texas and Oklahoma definitely come to the SEC, there will be a huge scramble for the remaining teams and the BIG 12 will just go away.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:55 pm to Dick Jacket
I said not-lucky middle class teams you dork. IE Mizzou, South Carolina, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Miss State, and lower class Vandy are dang lucky to be in this league.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 2:56 pm to DawgsLife
quote:I can't see 3. I know the Orwell 1984 model supports 3 superpowers keeping each other in check, but I don't see that being the case in CFB. I can see 4, 2, or 1.
Hearing a lot of speculation that we could end up with thee Super Conferences when it is said and done. My guess is Big 10, SEC and PAC 12, maybe?
SEC, Big 10, ACC and Pac 12;
SEC and Big 10; SEC absorbs the ACC and Big 10 merges with the Pac 12.
or SEC wins and runs the system.
quote:No, very doubtful. We're paring it down to the major programs. Nobody wants to add a smaller school, they want to add the big dogs.
It will be interesting to see if anybody goes after some teams from the smaller conferences like Cincinnati or UCF
quote:would be HUGE for the ACC. Right now, they're big and bloated. You can get a national contender from Clemson, Florida State, maybe Georgia Tech and Miami, maybe Virginia Tech. The rest are filler for basketball.
If the ACC can convince Notre Dame to join them fully
I suspect we'll see some dealing in the future; the Big 10 had seemed extremely strong and stable, but they fricked up bigtime with Covid, and that could crack the foundation. Nebraska and Penn State don't care about Big 10 tradition, they want security and their conference botched things. Ohio State might be chafing a bit, too; being held back etc.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News