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The Athletic - NCAA Tournament Bubble Watch (1-25-22)

Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:05 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:05 am
The Athletic - Bubble Watch

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Did we lock LSU too early? The Tigers were 15-2 when we put them up next to Auburn in the enviable lock category. Since then, they’re 0-2, with one close, hard-fought loss at Alabama and one horrendously ugly, massively frustrating defeat at Tennessee. For a team so gifted at defending, and one that creates so many good scoring opportunities from turnovers and blocks, it is truly incredible how many bad shots LSU takes. It’s small wonder the Tigers are the 14th-best offensive team in the SEC per-possession, and small wonder watching their games makes even a neutral want to throw sharp objects at the wall.

That said, LSU has played a brutal swath of the SEC schedule thus far: at Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, at Florida, Arkansas, at Alabama, at Tennessee. Scoring against that slate was always going to be tough. LSU went 3-4 in those games anyway, with maybe the home loss to Arkansas the one result they’d really like to have back. This is the 10th-ranked team in the NET with the No. 12-ranked schedule, one with four quality Quad 1 wins, a 7-1 record against the top two quadrants, and no bad losses. It is also the best defensive team in the country. Are we slightly concerned? If the offense stays in this crater, maybe slightly. But LSU is still a projected No. 2 seed after three straight defeats; it would take nothing short of a second-half apocalypse to put this at-large situation at risk.



Locks: Auburn, LSU

Should be in: Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama

Work to do: Florida, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Texas A&M


Kentucky (15-4, 5-2; NET: 9, SOS: 48)
Would it have been nice to see how a full-strength Kentucky held up in the second half at Auburn Saturday? Yes, it would have. But the thesis we had about the Wildcats coming in — that this team was good enough to go toe to toe with one of the best teams in the country in their rabid gym — felt more or less vindicated. Without TyTy Washington, Kentucky’s ability to hunt shots against good perimeter defense is limited, and when Sahvir Wheeler left the game (and later returned, but hardly seemed full strength), Kentucky pretty much stopped functioning. Auburn is too good to play against shorthanded. Still, assuming Washington gets healthy relatively soon, UK should come away from that game feeling very bullish on its chances of a deep tournament run. It’s a talented, efficient group on paper, but it’s also a grittier blend than the past couple of UK squads have been. This feels like a vintage John Calipari team in that way. It bodes well.

Tennessee (13-5, 4-3; NET: 11, SOS: 3)
Last week, we lamented Tennessee’s inability to put points on the board; even with Kennedy Chandler and other offseason additions, a consistently efficient offense remains the one missing piece preventing this team from being truly elite. Fortunately, LSU can’t score the ball at all, so the aforementioned flaw didn’t really matter last weekend. Tennessee beat LSU 64-50 — in 64 possessions. That’s certainly one way to do it. The addition of a second Quadrant 1 win (the first being over Arizona) boosts this resume considerably, with more opportunities for quality victories to come, up to and including Rick Barnes’ return to Texas Saturday. That one should be fun.

Alabama (13-6, 4-3; NET: 20, SOS: 2)
Alabama beat Missouri. This should almost go without saying, because Missouri is really bad at basketball, but the last time Alabama played Missouri, back on Jan. 8, this didn’t happen. That day, Missouri beat Alabama, which was bad for Alabama, because Missouri is bad at basketball. Make sense? Cool. The second Mizzou game was also extremely dicey, for what it’s worth; Alabama needed a 30-9 finish in the final 10 minutes to avoid a second devastating upset to the Tigers, one that would have landed in Quadrant 4. Scary stuff. Instead, last week can be considered an unmitigated success, as it also included a win over LSU, one that made Alabama 5-4 against Quadrant 1 and 4-1 against the top 11 in the NET. There is a bad loss here, yes, but it’s just the one, and the rest of this resume looks pretty darn good.

Florida (12-7, 3-4; NET: 34, SOS: 53)
Without being too harsh about it, Florida is the definition of mediocre. The Gators are capable of putting up good performances here and there — they did beat Ohio State on a neutral court, after all — and the win over Mississippi State last Wednesday was a useful game against a potential long-term bubble rival. But after three straight home wins, UF turned around and lost at Ole Miss Monday, 70-54. Ole Miss, for the record, ranks 134th in the NET, which just barely qualifies as a Quadrant 2 win unless and until the Rebels slip down to 135th or worse, at which point it will be Quadrant 3. The distinction there doesn’t really matter; it’s a bad loss, and yet more proof that Florida isn’t trending in the kind of positive direction we thought they might be a couple of weeks ago. Settle in, Gators fans. This team looks destined to stay on the bubble all year.

Mississippi State (13-5, 4-2; NET: 45, SOS: 154)
You have to feel for Mississippi State: When it lost to Louisville Nov. 25, there was no reason to expect the Cardinals to wind up being ranked 113th in the NET two months later. That should have been an acceptable nonconference loss; instead, it’s a bonafide bad look, and who knows how much deeper Louisville will sink before the season is over? Anyway, we’re still pretty bullish on MSU’s chances, no pun intended, despite that loss at fellow bubble team Florida on Jan. 19. This team is old, fairly talented (Iverson Molinar is having a great year), well-coached and just needs to a) hold serve against the teams it should beat and b) seize a few of quality opportunities this year’s SEC, in its bounty, provides.

Arkansas (14-5, 4-3; NET: 55, SOS: 110)
Beating Texas A&M on your own floor in overtime is not exactly the world’s greatest accomplishment; it is not the kind of thing that is going to really move Arkansas’s bubble needle. But Texas A&M is a decent and well-coached team that nearly knocked off Kentucky earlier in the same week; as Arkansas found out Jan. 8, the Aggies can be dangerous in any setting. Surviving kept the Hogs’ badly needed momentum going. They’re now 4-0 in their last four, a stretch that includes a win over LSU and constitutes a minor redemption from a 1-5 stretch between Dec. 11 and Jan. 8. More is required, but things are trending in a positive direction.

Texas A&M (14-4, 4-2; NET: 61, SOS: 142)
The ingredients for a massive upset were there. Texas A&M was guarding like crazy. Kentucky was out of rhythm, playing ugly, incredibly cold from deep. The Aggies led for the vast majority of the game. Then, in the final few minutes, UK gutted out a win. A&M fell away. This has been the story in all four of the Aggies’ losses this season — they’re close, but they’re not quite there yet, which is sort of how we feel about this resume. A&M is 0-4 against Quadrant 1, all of which were close, well-played games, and 14-0 against the rest of the team sheet. Unfortunately, 12 of those 14 wins came against Q3 and Q4 teams, and after the UK disappointment (and the overtime loss at Arkansas in OT Saturday), there remain basically zero high-quality victories on this resume. More opportunities abound: There are five Q1 opportunities left on this schedule (as of this writing; teams can move in and out of categories, obviously) and four Q2 chances before the end of the regular season, too. The Aggies need to get over the hump.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:08 am to
Georgia too high.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:09 am to
Pretty straight up review.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:13 am to
quote:

SEC

Did we lock LSU too early? The Tigers were 15-2 when we put them up next to Auburn in the enviable lock category. Since then, they’re 0-2, with one close, hard-fought loss at Alabama and one horrendously ugly, massively frustrating defeat at Tennessee. For a team so gifted at defending, and one that creates so many good scoring opportunities from turnovers and blocks, it is truly incredible how many bad shots LSU takes. It’s small wonder the Tigers are the 14th-best offensive team in the SEC per-possession, and small wonder watching their games makes even a neutral want to throw sharp objects at the wall.

That said, LSU has played a brutal swath of the SEC schedule thus far: at Auburn, Kentucky, Tennessee, at Florida, Arkansas, at Alabama, at Tennessee. Scoring against that slate was always going to be tough. LSU went 3-4 in those games anyway, with maybe the home loss to Arkansas the one result they’d really like to have back. This is the 10th-ranked team in the NET with the No. 12-ranked schedule, one with four quality Quad 1 wins, a 7-1 record against the top two quadrants, and no bad losses. It is also the best defensive team in the country. Are we slightly concerned? If the offense stays in this crater, maybe slightly. But LSU is still a projected No. 2 seed after three straight defeats; it would take nothing short of a second-half apocalypse to put this at-large situation at risk.


Weird they didnt even mention Xavier Pinson was out for 4 of these games (1-3 in those games). We've only had a healthy SEC lineup in 2 games thus far unfortunately with both our ball handlers out when Pinson has been out (Along with Adam Miller). Xavier Pinson and Darius days now are both expected to be out tomorrow night against A&M.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 8:15 am
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:24 am to
Been saying all along, it’s a five bid league
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:25 am to
I think LSU will be on the bubble by the end of the regular season
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Been saying all along, it’s a five bid league


It would be hard to think that at least one of those "work to do" teams won't step up. Just the odds of it really.

The only thing that could really hinder that is LSU continuing to slide even after getting healthy but their schedule is front loaded so I think they will get back on track soon.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:37 am to
Someone will move up, I think at least six teams get in.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:42 am to
LSU will bounce back with the schedule easing up.

Like Arkansas, they just need one blood letting game (like that criminal blowout of Missouri) to get back on track.

A&M will be a major threat to get to Madison Square Garden.

I think all other teams mentioned get in, with Miss St being one of the last teams in.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5363 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:53 am to
God, the bubble watch. I can’t take it.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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64970 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 8:56 am to
Alabama won’t be a bubble team.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:03 am to
quote:

LSU will bounce back with the schedule easing up.



Assuming we can actually get Pinson back. That injury is starting to worry me. It was supposed to be a 1-2 week recovery and now we're in week 3 and he's still listed as out. Days also out for at least this next game too.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:05 am to
quote:

It was supposed to be a 1-2 week recovery and now we're in week 3 and he's still listed as out.


Yeah, I was kind of expecting him to get the questionable tag for the next game but if he is already known out then that is a little concerning
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
15960 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:16 am to
I do not .

Arkansas has too many q3 losses, will need to beat The other bubble teams and Bama to get in.

State exact same thing as Arkansas.

TAMU net is too low, and its only as high as it is due to beating a bunch of lower teams. It will fall.

Florida has the best chance, at this exact moment, but I don't like their remaining schedule. @UT, @ Mizzou, @ UK, @ TAmu, Auburn, Arkansas, and UK make up 7 of the their remining 12. Room for 6 losses.

My biggest takeaway is that one of these teams mentioned above could get in, but I think it means its because they take Bama place, which I dont see happening.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 9:21 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 9:39 am to
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will need to beat The other bubble teams


Well yeah, every team that is one the bubble needs to do this. I'm not sure why they would need to beat Bama on the road unless you think they are going to drop like crazy in the NET. The great part is there are so many Q1 chances still left for the teams in the league on the bubble, probably 6 or so alone with Arkansas' schedule. The key will be getting a couple of those and avoiding the two or three bad losses left on the schedule.


quote:

My biggest takeaway is that one of these teams mentioned above could get in, but I think it means its because they take Bama place, which I dont see happening.


Five could happen but if I had to say 5 or 7, I would lean 7. This weekend will have alot to do with it as well.

This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 9:40 am
Posted by TailbackU
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:20 am to
There are 9 legit good teams in the SEC this year. Best season of SEC basketball in the last 40 years. Maybe ever.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30851 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:38 am to
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Alabama (13-6, 4-3; NET: 20, SOS: 2)


Is this "year to date" or "entire schedule"? Because if it is just YTD, we still have Baylor, a second game against Auburn, 2 games against Kentucky, and another game against LSU. That's 5 total games against the current AP top 7 (Auburn #1 twice, Gonzaga #2, Baylor #4, Houston #7).

31 total games for the regular season, 12 of which were against opponents in the top 25 this week.

It's weird that the record we have is probably what I would have expected at this point... but not who the wins and losses were against.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:39 am to
Alabama will lose to Georgia then beat Baylor based on previous data.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Alabama will lose to Georgia then beat Baylor based on previous data.


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