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Posted on 2/2/12 at 7:50 pm to i am dan
quote:FINALLY!!! DING DING DING DING!!! I just got here and read this pathetic thread. Alahunter is RIGHT!!
Hey, we have to have something to bitch about!
What we actually have here is a bunch of whiny, entitled rivals, save the couple Bama fans that are probably young, entitled and playing the "Jay Barker please view me as a rational Bama fan" part, mad that Bama is on top. Plain and simple.
The truth is, the kid knew several months ago that this was a possibility. Unfortunately for him he didn't like it because his dream school was Alabama. So as many people do, he thought maybe if I ignore this it won't happen and isn't true. Well it was. Just as has been said already, as in life the best player/salesman/employee usually gets the job in a capitalist business. I realize Gov/Union jobs are different, and well the result is most of those are either broke or about to be.
Back on topic, if you entitled want this to stop, well stop limiting the available schollies to kids. Of course you'll hate that too because Bama would sign 35 kids a year, have 150 on the sidelines, and scream "They cheatin!! Keepin kids from comin here!" Must hurt knowing that kids would rather ride the pine at Alabama than start for your school. Ouch. Now carry on...
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:18 pm to KPCrimson
How do you know that the kid knew months ago. If so, didn't Bama. And, if they did, why was he still listed on their recruitment list. All of the defending of Saban on this just shows us that you guys know that this was sorry way for a recruit to be treated. Whether Saban is right or wrong, it will catch up with him. It is the same for all of us. You reap what you sow!
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:21 pm to cajun5tiger
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All of the defending of Saban on this just shows us that you guys know that this was sorry way for a recruit to be treated.
this may be the single dumbest thing I have ever read on here. Are you actually saying that arguing against a position equals proof that we actually agree with the position we are arguing against? Did you bother to pull your head out of your arse before typing this out?
Posted on 2/2/12 at 8:53 pm to cajun5tiger
quote:Who's to say I don't?? Plus how do you know he wasn't?
How do you know that the kid knew months ago
quote:Because he still had a scholarship offer from us. Guess what, LSU greyshirts too.
why was he still listed on their recruitment list
quote:Correct. Hard work, along with opportunity and a little luck gets you the #1 class in the country, a ridiculous start to the 2013 class, and 21-0. Have a nice day
You reap what you sow!
Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:04 pm to KPCrimson
Just google who offered gray shirts and the first page comes up with FSU, Colorado, Michigan State.
EVERYBODY does it, coach Saban and Bama are just easy targets right now because they are on top. All this bitching and moaning makes me
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EVERYBODY does it, coach Saban and Bama are just easy targets right now because they are on top. All this bitching and moaning makes me
. Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:15 pm to Interweb Cowboy
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EVERYBODY does it, coach Saban and Bama are just easy targets right now because they are on top. All this bitching and moaning makes me
Saban has taken this to a whole new level. You do realize the SEC 25 rule came about because of his practices, the bump rule was introduced because of him to reinforce a rule that already existed about no contact periods but he broke anyway. Saban doesn't care for rules, now if you are willing to do whatever it takes to win including messing with kid's futures that's fine as long as you understand it. I repeat my warning when he was hired, that UA will have a strong run under him similar to USC, and that it will end up the same except Saban's contract states he gets paid no matter what.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:23 pm to Alahunter
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It was created, by the staff doing it's job. There would be all kinds of complaining if he hadn't continued recruiting players, and then one or two that were committed signed with other schools. Everyone needs to get their panties out of a wad and grow up. Life is hard, it's harder when you're stupid, and alot of you are acting like you're going through a really hard time right now.
Except it's affecting the future of 18 year old kids .... its not right no matter how you spin it.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 9:27 pm to rangers911
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You do realize the SEC 25 rule came about because of his practices,
No, that came about directly because of Tuberville and Nutt.
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the bump rule was introduced because of him to reinforce a rule that already existed about no contact periods but he broke anyway.
No, again. The "bump rule" was designed to prevent the only two hard working coaches in the league from doing something that was completely legal, and working while lazy arse Auburn coaches took hunting vacations.
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Saban's contract states he gets paid no matter what.
No it doesn't. God, it's amazing how fricking stupid you Auburn people really are.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:32 pm to Interweb Cowboy
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EVERYBODY does it, coach Saban and Bama are just easy targets right now because they are on top. All this bitching and moaning makes me .
There are legitimate reasons and circumstances for offering grayshirts but this situation is not one of them.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:39 am to Beer Bryant
The scholarship limit is bullshite if you ask me. If 1,000 guys want to play somewhere, let them. If they want to sit on the bench, let them. It's not Alabama's fault those couple extra guys didn't want to go somewhere else.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:41 am to Evolved Simian
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No it doesn't. God, it's amazing how fricking stupid you Auburn people really are.
If someone says they're an Auburn fan, I immediately tune them out. Nothing they can say can ever make up for the fact they made the dubious decision of being an Auburn fan.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:29 am to 3rdandlong83
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If someone says they're an Auburn fan, I immediately tune them out. Nothing they can say can ever make up for the fact they made the dubious decision of being an Auburn fan.
I'm sorry, were you saying something. I tuned you out.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:42 am to Outside looking in
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No it won't. When you reach 25, you tell everyone else you don't have room for them. It's the coaches fault if they committed themselves to lesser talent before signing day.
That's not the way it works because a lot of the big dogs walk late. Chizik played that game and got screwed on signing day when players chose other schools.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:56 am to Beer Bryant
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Saban can blame the system, but he's the one who decides whether to honor a commitment or take away an opportunity.
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/02/darius_philon_was_more_committ.html
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:58 am to 3rdandlong83
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The scholarship limit is bullshite if you ask me. If 1,000 guys want to play somewhere, let them. If they want to sit on the bench, let them. It's not Alabama's fault those couple extra guys didn't want to go somewhere else.
The reason for the scholarship limit was to make it so that all schools could complete, this means everyone could compete with the IVY league schools. If you want to get into bidding wars they'll blow the doors off anyone in the SEC and then some. What it opened the door to was creative use of scholarships, 300 pound soccer players, used by Bear, so the NCAA later said if you are on any scholarship it counts towards a football scholarship.
The other reason is for competition, believe it or not most people like seeing a variety of teams playing well not 3 teams going out and dominating everything. As fans we may love for our team to do the best but the nation as a whole gets burnt out fast when one team makes a strong run, look at Bama now the Nation is not in favor of UA right now and has solidly turned against it.
Also the 25 rule limit has nothing to do with this. If a coach can sign and cut as many players as he likes there is no accountability for him making bad decisions on players ability.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:01 am to rangers911
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look at Bama now the Nation is not in favor of UA right now and has solidly turned against it.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:02 am to rangers911
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The reason for the scholarship limit was to make it so that all schools could complete
You mean compete. yes, the welfare rule/limit. Auburn has benefitted from this.
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The other reason is for competition, believe it or not most people like seeing a variety of teams playing well not 3 teams going out and dominating everything. As fans we may love for our team to do the best but the nation as a whole gets burnt out fast when one team makes a strong run, look at Bama now the Nation is not in favor of UA right now and has solidly turned against it.
Therefore, lets make up new rules, because one team is working hard and doing things better. Forget trying to catch up. Tear them down to make it more even. Brilliant.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:02 am to rangers911
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Saban has taken this to a whole new level.
He has taken it to a whole new level by offering two grey shirts? If a recruit can switch his commitment on national signing day, leaving a school without a position they needed, why can't a school switch a commitment on a player when it has better players they can get?
Posted on 2/3/12 at 9:04 am to RollTide1987
They can and we did. 
and 
to Saban for doing what he felt was in the best interest of the program and continuing to bring in talent.
and to Saban for doing what he felt was in the best interest of the program and continuing to bring in talent.
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