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re: The 2003 and 2007 LSU National Championship Seasons

Posted on 7/29/18 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 6:59 pm to
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How so? USC lost to a 6 loss Cal team in 2003


Sure, in triple overtime on the road. And they beat everyone else on their schedule by between 14 and 45 including #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

Their margin of victory was much greater than 2004 USC against almost every opponent. 2004 USC was a fumbled punt away from losing to Va Tech, pulled out a last second 3 point win vs unranked Standord who led most of the game, were totally dominated by Cal who had double the yardage, closer to triple the first downs, ran ton more plays and had first and goal to win the game with a minute left and fricked up. They also trailed by double digits to unranked Oregon State eventually winning by 8. Finally they barely beat a terrible unranked UCLA team by 5 points with UCLA having the ball with a chance to win late.

Compare that to 2004 AU who destroyed everyone, led every game wire to wire except 1 or 2, had 2 TD leads plus vs everyone but LSU by the 3rd quarter and played a tougher schedule than 2004 USC as well (more ranked teams).

2003 USC was better than 2004 USC. 2003 lost once in triple OT and crushed everyone else. 2004 USC was constantly having to come from behind and 4 teams had the ball with a chance to win late (2 of them inside the USC 10), and 2 of those teams were unranked. Can you imagine 2004 AU being threatened by an unranked team? Lol, neither can I.

2004 AU would have kicked 2004 USC's arse. 2003 USC would have as well. 2003 LSU might have.
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:03 pm to
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Can you imagine 2004 AU being threatened by an unranked team

Was that shitty Bama team ranked when they played y'all close?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:11 pm to
No, but they were a lot better than that UCLA team USC squeaked by the same weekend. And they played us close at home for exactly 2 quarters.

Then we started the second half with 21 straight points on 3 third quarter TDs to go up about 20 points and put in the backups.

Very very different from USC struggling and eeking out wins constantly in 2004.

Also, 2004 Oklahoma wasnt that great. They played 3 ranked teams, 1 team in the top 20 with an average margin of victory of 7.
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:13 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:13 pm to
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Compare that to 2004 AU who destroyed everyone, led every game wire to wire except 1 or 2, had 2 TD leads plus vs everyone but LSU by the 3rd quarter and played a tougher schedule than 2004 USC as well (more ranked teams).


Your schedules were about equal in terms of wins and losses. USC's regular season opponents finished a combined 70-69 while Auburn's finished a combined 63-63. USC's non-conference schedule was also way more impressive with games against Virginia Tech, BYU, and Notre Dame. Compare that with Auburn's non-conference slate of UL-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, and The Citadel.

The SEC was also comparatively weak compared to previous/future years with half of the conference finishing with .500 or worse records.

Plus...you didn't destroy everyone. You were down 6-0 at the half against an Alabama team that was down to its second string offense due to injuries. The final score was 21-13.
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:13 pm to
Ok. Why did y'all have such a time against VT in yalls bowl when USC throttled OU by 5 TDs?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:14 pm to
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Sure, in triple overtime on the road. And they beat everyone else on their schedule by between 14 and 45 including #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

Their margin of victory was much greater than 2004 USC against almost every opponent. 2004 USC was a fumbled punt away from losing to Va Tech, pulled out a last second 3 point win vs unranked Standord who led most of the game, were totally dominated by Cal who had double the yardage, closer to triple the first downs, ran ton more plays and had first and goal to win the game with a minute left and fricked up. They also trailed by double digits to unranked Oregon State eventually winning by 8. Finally they barely beat a terrible unranked UCLA team by 5 points with UCLA having the ball with a chance to win late.

Compare that to 2004 AU who destroyed everyone, led every game wire to wire except 1 or 2, had 2 TD leads plus vs everyone but LSU by the 3rd quarter and played a tougher schedule than 2004 USC as well (more ranked teams).

2003 USC was better than 2004 USC. 2003 lost once in triple OT and crushed everyone else. 2004 USC was constantly having to come from behind and 4 teams had the ball with a chance to win late (2 of them inside the USC 10), and 2 of those teams were unranked. Can you imagine 2004 AU being threatened by an unranked team? Lol, neither can I.

2004 AU would have kicked 2004 USC's arse. 2003 USC would have as well. 2003 LSU might have.


2003 LSU beat 11 teams by 2 plus scores.

That 2003 D all day bro. All fricking day.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:19 pm to
Then we put up 3 straight TDs to start the second half and could have easily put up 5 straight.

If USC was so great, why were they a play away from losing 4 games in 2004. Why did they get so dominated by Cal? Why were they having to come from behind several times.

Can't say any of those things about 2004 AU.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:21 pm to
How in tarnation did USC beat VT worse than y'all did? And their game was actually at VT
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:22 pm to
Have such a time against VaTech?

AU was up 16-0 with a few minutes left in the game and ran the ball 27 of 28 plays. VaTech never had the ball with a chance to tie or take the lead in the second half. We had an easier time with VaTech than USC did, that is for sure.

Oh yeah, VaTech would have beat the hell out of that overrated OU team.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3617 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:22 pm to
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07 LSU is a joke


Yeah, it just couldn't stack up to A&M's...uh... 1939 (?) championship team. I mean, that team would have just destroyed LSU's 07 team. Just like the last time A&M beat LSU in ...uh.... Wait, it will come to me.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:22 pm to
Obviously you did not watch either game.

Go away and quit wasting everyone's time or use google to learn something
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:24 pm to
Watched all of them. I was doing you a favor by not mentioning the abortion of a game y'all played against a mediocre LSU squad.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:30 pm to
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Then we put up 3 straight TDs to start the second half and could have easily put up 5 straight.


Then why didn't you? When you're fighting for a spot in the national championship game, the last thing you want to do is keep a mediocre team in the game as well as deliberately keep the score respectable.

It's the same thing with your retarded argument about the Sugar Bowl. "Yeah, the final score was 16-13, but it was 16-0 at one point, and it could have just as easily been worse."

Retarded on your coaches for not making it worse if it could have been worse. Your only chance at a split national championship was annihilating Virginia Tech. You didn't do that. That really makes your coaching staff and your team look foolish if they had the ability to make the score a lot worse than what it was.

All I can conclude is that Auburn didn't deserve the championship in 2004 because they lacked a killer instinct when they needed that killer instinct. USC went up against Oklahoma on the biggest stage and annihilated them like they had to. Because of their margin of victory over the Sooners, combined with Auburn's 3-point win over Virginia Tech, the Trojans were unanimous national champions in 2004.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:30 pm to
Well then you are just stupid.

1. The game was at FedEx field, not at VaTech

2. The score was 14-13 USC mid-late 4th when USC punted from deep in their own territory. VaTech would have been set to take the lead with a field goal until the punt was fumbled.

That is a hell of a lot different than AU sitting on a 3 score lead running the ball 27/28 times to run out the clock.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127394 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:31 pm to
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There was absolutely zero about that team that said dominant team.

Did you not watch that team early in the season when they were healthy?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:32 pm to
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Retarded on your coaches for not making it worse if it could have been worse.


No shite moron? What rock have you been under the last 14 years? What Aubie hasnt said that and used the term Tubershell for over a decade and even to this day constantly.

I mean wtf man? Get a clue.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:33 pm to
You just ignore everything that doesn't support your position. Reminds me of your poli board posts
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:33 pm to
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No shite moron? What rock have you been under the last 14 years?


I think you missed my point. Your blinded by the blue and orange sun that shines in your face. Those games weren't as lopsided because Auburn didn't have the ability to make them lopsided because Auburn wasn't as good as you remember them.

Their non-conference schedule was a joke and so was the SEC that year (outside of three or four teams).
This post was edited on 7/29/18 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:35 pm to
Ah, you are a trump supporter.

I get it now. Illogical and dumb and not worth anymore of my time.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 7/29/18 at 7:37 pm to
Oh boy, and down the road we go.
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