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re: Texas A&M - 2012 Offense
Posted on 3/5/13 at 12:59 pm to DWag215
Posted on 3/5/13 at 12:59 pm to DWag215
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Great question. Glad you asked.
It's certainly one of the three best of all time. 2010 Auburn and 1996 Florida are the only teams that belong at 2012 TAMU's table.
'12 TAMU had 1,200 more total yards than '96 UF. Spurrier's best team had roughly the same ypp, and about 2 more ppg.
Cam's squad had about 200 less total yards than JFF's, and roughly 3 less ppg. The ypp is another was (negligible difference).
I think our 08 team scored more points than any other in SEC history.
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:03 pm to Projectpat
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FIFY
How is A&M ahead of LSU?
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:04 pm to USMC Gators
Counting bowl game results. They have a better overall record. Still third in the west, though. 
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:16 pm to therick711
I know its a dig at a&m but that speaks more to how strong the west is than anything, tbh
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:21 pm to TeLeFaWx
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offensive line better than Bama's
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:23 pm to Projectpat
Oh, good. Let's have another 10 pages on how aTm technically tied for second place in the west. Congratulations.
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:25 pm to thefloydian
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Congratulations.
Thx bro.
Anyways, this topic is supposed to be about Tennessee Jed's prophetic skills.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:27 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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I know its a dig at a&m but that speaks more to how strong the west is than anything, tbh
Not just the West anymore.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:33 pm to TeLeFaWx
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And bookmarked to see if your claims come true.
Ok? Warmack and Fluker are foregone conclusions right now, and if Barrett hadn't gotten hurt he'd be a first as well. Don't be surprised if CyKo jumps Lewan and Matthews next season though. Not saying it will happen, but it could.
Anyway I don't think many people outside of A&M think you had the better OL, but keep thinking you do. You're acting just like Arky fans did last offseason.
Speaking of last offseason, remember how Porter was better than Mosley. L.O.L.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:56 pm to lowspark12
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Do you have the numbers handy for the 2010 AU/ 2012 A&M offenses?... we obviously played in one more game, and probably played a tougher SOS (granted part of that is our fault for being 3-9).
It's in the post.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:00 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Dear God... I was right about everything outside of Lattimore.
y'alls O.line wasn't better than Bama's.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:06 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Ogbuehi will all be first round picks
that's funny since he isn't on the nfl radar right now.
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After watching your offensive line play A&M, I can most certainly say our offensive line was better.
so you're basing your opinion on one game?
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:07 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Don't be surprised if CyKo jumps Lewan and Matthews next season though.
I think he is already ahead of Lewan.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:14 pm to therick711
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Auburn's defense was putrid in 2010. Or as you might better understand, average for the Big 12.
TAMU's 2012 D held opponents to roughly 3 less ppg, but gave up more than 20 yards more pg.
More or less a wash. Either way, we can't deduce from those stats that AU's offense in 2010 was better.
However, AU did hit 78% of its FGs in 2010. TAMU? 59%
Why is that significant to your championship point? Taylor Bertolet's leg left 7 points on the field against LSU. Had he not, we would've won, and would've played in the SECCG.
Special Teams is the difference between 2010 AU and 2012 TAMU, not AU's offense.
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:19 pm to adammwilson
Except our O-line was better than Bama's and we dominated their front 7 all game.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:24 pm to adammwilson
Ogbuehi was only a Sophomore last year so no he wasn't on the radar as much as the 2 clear 1st Rounders next to him. He's got all the tools though and will move into Jake's spot this year. He'd be a starting LT on 90% of the teams in college football and he had to play Guard for us last year. Harrison is a physical freak that is a monster that can move. Mike Sherman consistently stated both would be 1st Rounders and he used to be an NFL GM and OL coach (now an NFL OC).
More importantly though no one consistently got pressure on Manziel all year and A&M was effective running the ball all year, esp in short yardage. The head to head game with A&M and Bama isn't the whole tale but it certainly matters in comparison. A&M got consistent pressure on the QB and Bama had trouble running the ball. That's why on the final drive Bama didn't just run it, they tried on 1st down and got stuffed and then had to try to pass it to get it in after having 1st and Goal and just a few yards to win the game in front of them.
Ironically over the season Manziel got criticized for lack of TD's in some of the big games but a big part of the reason was A&M would just hand it off inside the 10 to their RB's and just run people over.
Bama had a great OL but A&M's was just better. I can't even count how many times JFF had 10 seconds to throw the ball.
More importantly though no one consistently got pressure on Manziel all year and A&M was effective running the ball all year, esp in short yardage. The head to head game with A&M and Bama isn't the whole tale but it certainly matters in comparison. A&M got consistent pressure on the QB and Bama had trouble running the ball. That's why on the final drive Bama didn't just run it, they tried on 1st down and got stuffed and then had to try to pass it to get it in after having 1st and Goal and just a few yards to win the game in front of them.
Ironically over the season Manziel got criticized for lack of TD's in some of the big games but a big part of the reason was A&M would just hand it off inside the 10 to their RB's and just run people over.
Bama had a great OL but A&M's was just better. I can't even count how many times JFF had 10 seconds to throw the ball.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:06 pm to DWag215
It's kind of bullshite to blame Bertolet for the loss to LSU when a chop block took away a TD, Malena's fumble led to their lead at the half, TJ caused a pick by breaking off his route, and Mike Evans gave up another when he let a perfect pass bounce off his chest on a play that would have put them deep into LSU territory. Plus one of those missed FGs was like a 50 yarder. Even in the NFL those aren't gimmes.
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:23 pm to Dr RC
Bertolet was an issue, but. RC is right. Lots of blame everywhere.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:37 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Except our O-line was better than Bama's
based on what?
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we dominated their front 7 all game.
which is why you still only won by 5 points and didn't have a 100 yard rusher.
Your top RB only had 50 yards.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:39 pm to adammwilson
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