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re: Sumlin to USC, Morris to A&M (Who says no?)

Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
19363 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Has this thread gone to shite?


That's affirmative. Too few honest posters like yourself. Too many trolls.
Posted by Tecate
Member since Nov 2012
1007 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:02 pm to
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Has this thread gone to shite?


Are lsu fans posting?
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:03 pm to
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Would be a downgrade for Sumlin IMO. USC coaching job is a cursed job it seems.


Nah, they are probably about on par as far as programs go. Both have an overinflated sense of self worth and haven't done shite in 10 years to warrant the hype.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:03 pm to
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Sumlin will go to the NFL eventually imo


Why? I don't see any coach with as much, "I think he goes to the NFL" from other fan bases about any coach in the country as I do with Sumlin. Why? What has he ever said about the NFL? What makes him so primed for the NFL? His gimmick offense? His complete lack of time in the NFL? His enjoyment of college recruiting? If I had to list coaches that seemed like NFL guys he'd be near the bottom. I don't get why people think he's NFL bound. Do y'all think he's an amazing coach and the NFL covets him more so than any other SEC coach? Seriously. What is it?
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34905 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:04 pm to
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I mean we can do this all day. But historical success matters to coaches. It's name recognition. It's something to talk about in recruiting. It's banners to show recruits.



I would say it's like third on the list, behind recruiting base, facilities, and brand exposure. Otherwise Miami doesn't have the shitty coaching staff it currently does, or Nebraska makes a better hire last year.

Twenty years ago it was one or two on the priority list. That is the disconnect, that things have changed.

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It doesn't mean TAMU won't be good.


For that alone you deserve a

Many haters assume we will always be bad not for logical reasons, but just because we are Aggies.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71913 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:04 pm to
So it's trolling now to say that coaching a team that has had 7 Heisman winners and 10 national titles is a better job than TAMU

come on bruh
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:15 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34905 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:05 pm to
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tried to make this a Chavis thread.


We didn't start the LSU to A&M comparisons. It is called retaliation.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26075 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:06 pm to
This is a dream come true job for Malzahn.Athletes to run his real offense and weak competition.He's on schedule to jump jobs so this could be a done deal...
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:07 pm to

7 Kevin Sumlin Texas A&M 51 SEC $5,000,000


21 Steve Sarkisian USC 41 Pac 12 $3,850,000

so he's the highest paid coach west of the rockies..

sure they could pay more, but do these left coast pac schools really want to follow the SEC and Ten lead of paying outrageous amounts to sports figure heads? doubt it.
Posted by Jebeco
Clear Lake City, TX
Member since Jul 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:07 pm to
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Nah, they are probably about on par as far as programs go. Both have an overinflated sense of self worth and haven't done shite in 10 years to warrant the hype.


Well, I was just thinking of..
Pete Carroll-Reggie Bush, NCAA, Sanctions etc etc
Lane Kiffin-LOL
Sarkisian-Gary Pinkel's padawan.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71913 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:07 pm to
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I would say it's like third on the list, behind recruiting base, facilities, and brand exposure. Otherwise Miami doesn't have the shitty coaching staff it currently does, or Nebraska makes a better hire last year.



the Miamis and SMUs of the world have been plagued with sanctions. So has USC in all honesty. All of our teams are 1 phone call or 1 tweet away from being sanctioned.

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Many haters assume we will always be bad not for logical reasons, but just because we are Aggies.



I know TAMU won't be bad. I don't know how successful you'll be either, but you have too much money to be bad IMO.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:09 pm to
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Keep in mind I'm not saying TAMU will always be a subpar program. I'm simply saying that USC's recent historical success is enough to assume they with the right coach, they could be back to playing in January.



Any program with the right coach can be there. A&M's prestige blows Oregon's out of the water. Baylor and TCU are small private schools that have never won anything and they are number two and three in the country. When Nick Saban left the Dolphins, there are about 40 schools he would have won a national title at. Hell. He turned around an LSU program which at the time was a less successful and cajun version of Ole Miss.

If Sumlin can win a national title at USC, he'll win one at A&M. This isn't the 1960s. Parity is rampant.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71913 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:13 pm to
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Any program with the right coach can be there


Completely disagree. Some schools don't have the schedule or the prestige. Baylor and TCU are still in a P5 conference.

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A&M's prestige blows Oregon's out of the water


Nike is why Oregon is now a pretty good program

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If Sumlin can win a national title at USC, he'll win one at A&M.


I think he could very well win one at TAMU, but I disagree with this statement. The SCEw is the hardest division in football. If Oregon is on a down year, the Pac 12 is up for grabs.



This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:14 pm
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:14 pm to
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That's hardly a lateral move...

Please. A&M can match USC...

Nat. Titles:
Ag (3) 1917, 1927, 1939
USC (11)

Heismans: Ag (2) ... USC (7)

College Station vs. Los Angeles

Yep! Lateral move for sure.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:17 pm to
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7 straight conference titles

The 'horns had a comparable run in the late 1960s and early 1970s. Does that mean that Austin is a head coaching destination comparable to USC ... today?

By the same token, the 'horns have won 25 Conference championships to only 11 for LSU. They have also won 4 National Championships, versus three for LSU. Does this mean that Austin is a preferable job to Baton Rouge?

The desirability of the job is dependent upon many, many factors. Despite the history in Austin, no sane coach would set foot in the pit of vipers that is the Longhorn Moneyed Alumni.
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:28 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:18 pm to
Uh, yeah. Texas is a great job. What are you smoking? You think by putting LSU into it that I would deny that Texas is a top 3 job in the country. Great city, great location, great history. Big money. UT is a great destination.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:19 pm to
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USC is a lateral move [to Texas A&M] at this point.

This might very well be the most redassed thing I've ever read in my entire life.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71913 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:19 pm to
Texas is the best job in the country. I know yall hate it, but Strong will eventually turn this thing around if they have some patience.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62990 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:21 pm to
I think with the current landscape in their AD you could argue it's not. But by the somewhat objective measures like money, facilities, etc it probably is


I dunno on your Strong statement but that's a totally different subject. Someone will eventually turn it around of course
This post was edited on 10/12/15 at 5:22 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71913 posts
Posted on 10/12/15 at 5:21 pm to
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Lane Kiffin-LOL



Hell Lane walked into sanctions. He also had UT damn near turned around when he left. 08 is when Cody blocked that chip shot FG. Without that freak play that Bama couldn't replicate in 100 tries, Lane beats a top 5 Bama in his first year. That's some shite.
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