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Stoops and Calipari Fighting in Twitter
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:10 pm
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:15 pm to JackTraven
Who would win in an actual fight?
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:16 pm to JackTraven
Maybe stoops can head to A&M and win 10 games. They might pay him 10 mil a year
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:18 pm to JackTraven
I'd tell Calipari to eat a dick if I was a Kentucky fan.
Also comparing Kentucky to Alabama right now when he hasn't won a national championship in 10 years, and it's his only one isn't a good look IMO.
Basically he's just a Chizik, but probably less redeemable as a person due to a bullshite ego.
Dude needs to learn his place. If Kentucky is a basketball school then he's a shitty coach.
Also comparing Kentucky to Alabama right now when he hasn't won a national championship in 10 years, and it's his only one isn't a good look IMO.
Basically he's just a Chizik, but probably less redeemable as a person due to a bullshite ego.
Dude needs to learn his place. If Kentucky is a basketball school then he's a shitty coach.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:21 pm to JackTraven
Makes me proud to have close friends in Muss and Pittman.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:28 pm to 3down10
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Basically he's just a Chizik, but probably less redeemable as a person due to a bullshite ego.
I'd argue he's more Les Miles.
Won a championship early in his time, has all the resources and recruiting success in the world, but now everyone else has caught up and he does nothing but disappoint year after year.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:47 pm to 3down10
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Also comparing Kentucky to Alabama right now when he hasn't won a national championship in 10 years, and it's his only one isn't a good look IMO.
I could be wrong but I think you took his point the wrong direction. Cal has an ego but I doubt he was trying to say his career is anything close to Saban's
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:48 pm to WaterLink
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Who would win in an actual fight?
Stoops easy.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:49 pm to JackTraven
Where is the closest Sonic to campus?
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:53 pm to rockiee
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I could be wrong but I think you took his point the wrong direction. Cal has an ego but I doubt he was trying to say his career is anything close to Saban's
He compared Kentucky to Alabama in terms of Alabama being a football school and Kentucky being a basketball school.
If that is true, then he is the problem. Because he certainly hasn't had difficulty getting talent, and if you are a "sport school" and you aren't producing the results, then it's the coach that is the problem, not the school.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:55 pm to JackTraven
We are one of the rare schools that are both.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:56 pm to 3down10
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He compared Kentucky to Alabama in terms of Alabama being a football school and Kentucky being a basketball school. If that is true, then he is the problem. Because he certainly hasn't had difficulty getting talent, and if you are a "sport school" and you aren't producing the results, then it's the coach that is the problem, not the school.
Really ? Lol. You know how much harder it is to win a college basketball championship compared to football? Football teams with the most talent win most of the time. Basketball has a tournament that causes chaos.
John Calipari has been to 4 final 4s. Name me some other current coaches that can say the same. Coach Cal has won coach of the year 3 times and is in the basketball hall of fame. Give him some respect.
As long as Cal is at Kentucky, they will be title favorites if not close to it every year. They will definitely be favorites in 2023
Posted on 8/11/22 at 4:57 pm to 3down10
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He compared Kentucky to Alabama in terms of Alabama being a football school and Kentucky being a basketball school.
Right and I think we will both admit that Saban is beyond an absurd level
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If that is true, then he is the problem. Because he certainly hasn't had difficulty getting talent, and if you are a "sport school" and you aren't producing the results, then it's the coach that is the problem, not the school.
I'm not going to defend Cal's tenure. You can certainly make an argument that he underachieved but winning in CBB and CFB isn't exactly the same either.
For example, what are the other "football schools" outside of Bama that have more championships than Cal during his run? Not many, hard to compare what Saban has done to anyone else across the sports landscape.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:13 pm to Heresaucer
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:15 pm to Sneakerhead42
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Really ? Lol. You know how much harder it is to win a college basketball championship compared to football? Football teams with the most talent win most of the time. Basketball has a tournament that causes chaos.
And in football you pretty much have to have a perfect season, and a single play can end your entire season. Basketball has a regular season where you can lose multiple games, and it's not a big deal. The only must win games you really get in basketball is the tourney, in which the majority of the games are seeded in your favor assuming you are a top seed.
Alabama in 2013 for example and the kick six. Alabama was in the national championships hunt, but lost a game at the last second in an away game against it's rival - championship lost.
Second chances are rare in football and only come when other teams screw up to give it to you. It's been made EASIER since the addition of the playoffs because now teams are getting a second chance more often.
Not to mention all the players and things the coach has to manage. Not just 5 starters, but rather 22 starters, more than the entire basketball team. 85 scholarship players and another 30 walk ons. And a game where your starters are more likely to get injured.
So no, I don't agree with that at all.
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John Calipari has been to 4 final 4s. Name me some other current coaches that can say the same. Coach Cal has won coach of the year 3 times and is in the basketball hall of fame. Give him some respect.
As long as Cal is at Kentucky, they will be title favorites if not close to it every year. They will definitely be favorites in 2023
Last final 4 was 7 years ago.
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, and if you want to be happy with him - that's fine. But Alabama doesn't keep football coaches around for 7 years without results, and that's what he compared Kentucky too.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:15 pm to JackTraven
Two dumb comments. Don’t know why Cal feels the need to bring the football team into this. We’re a basketball school with a good rising football program. Pretty sure everyone already knows that. Stoops knows it so idk why he’s trying to put his resume on the table.
IMO Cal didn’t mean to throw an errant shot at Stoops but to just give a pitch to get new facility upgrades to the AD. Not the message I’d use to get what I want but whatever
IMO Cal didn’t mean to throw an errant shot at Stoops but to just give a pitch to get new facility upgrades to the AD. Not the message I’d use to get what I want but whatever
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:18 pm to JackTraven
Bryant used to tell a story about the basketball coach got a Cadillac as a bonus from boosters while the football team won the SEC and he got a watch. But this is not exactly true and Bryant never meant for it to be taken as the truth. It was just a way for him to say the same thing Calipari did. Alabama is a football school and Kentucky is a basketball school. Both schools play both sports, but UK's basketball success dwarfs their football success, and vice versa for Bama. I hate to side with Calipari because I like Stoops a lot more, but he isn't saying anything that isn't true nor nothing that hasn't been said for decades.
edit: For the record UK boosters did buy that coach a Cadillac for 25 years of coaching and it was long after Bryant left. But I do believe Bryant left because he wanted to coach a school that prioritizes football.
edit: For the record UK boosters did buy that coach a Cadillac for 25 years of coaching and it was long after Bryant left. But I do believe Bryant left because he wanted to coach a school that prioritizes football.
This post was edited on 8/11/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:19 pm to 3down10
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I'd tell Calipari to eat a dick if I was a Kentucky fan.
Also comparing Kentucky to Alabama right now when he hasn't won a national championship in 10 years, and it's his only one isn't a good look IMO.
Basically he's just a Chizik, but probably less redeemable as a person due to a bull shite ego.
Dude needs to learn his place. If Kentucky is a basketball school then he's a shitty coach.
I agree with this. No one in the big 2 sports compared to Alabama but UCLA under Wooden. He is the only person above Saban.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:20 pm to rockiee
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Right and I think we will both admit that Saban is beyond an absurd level
But that absurd level is the reason why he's been able to maintain his job all these years.
We aren't keeping a guy who just wins 10 games and makes a bowl game. If Saban starts missing out on the playoffs for the next 6 years in a row, do you still think he has a job for the 7th?
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For example, what are the other "football schools" outside of Bama that have more championships than Cal during his run? Not many, hard to compare what Saban has done to anyone else across the sports landscape.
Saban, Meyer, and Dabo come to mind. If you want to count the playoffs as a final 4, then you have Oklahoma/Riley with 4(not sure if Stoops had any of those). And of course you have multiple coaches that achieved a single NC during that time.
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:20 pm to 3down10
quote:Reading too deep into it my man. His point is that every school has its specialty sport that the school is known for. Kentucky’s is basketball so he’s saying they should get first dibs when it comes to upgrades
And in football you pretty much have to have a perfect season, and a single play can end your entire season. Basketball has a regular season where you can lose multiple games, and it's not a big deal. The only must win games you really get in basketball is the tourney, in which the majority of the games are seeded in your favor assuming you are a top seed. Alabama in 2013 for example and the kick six. Alabama was in the national championships hunt, but lost a game at the last second in an away game against it's rival - championship lost. Second chances are rare in football and only come when other teams screw up to give it to you. It's been made EASIER since the addition of the playoffs because now teams are getting a second chance more often. Not to mention all the players and things the coach has to manage. Not just 5 starters, but rather 22 starters, more than the entire basketball team. 85 scholarship players and another 30 walk ons. And a game where your starters are more likely to get injured. So no, I don't agree with that at all.
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