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Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:43 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:43 am to Smokeyone
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The UGA O without the rest was not good enough to beat anyone.
We beat Tennessee. You still claiming we lose 3 games in our initial 12 game schedule?
Be a man and back up your words....or you can always just ignore my posts and run again. Seems to be your MO.
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:45 am to Smokeyone
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The UGA O without the rest was not good enough to beat anyone.
The stats prove your wrong yet again…….
2021 O rankings:
Yards Per Play basic: 4th
Points Per Game: 9th
Passing Efficiency: 4th
Non-garbage time vs FBS opponents:
Points Per Drive: 4th
Points Per Play: 3rd
Yards Per Point: 3rd
OFEI: 3rd
Offensive Available Yards %: 6th
YPP adjusted: 3rd
Drive efficiency: 4th
TD rate: 4th
Value Drive Rate: 4th
Busted Drive Rate: 3rd
Turnover Rate: 5th
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:18 am to djsdawg
I’m curious
Among all CFB QBs last season, where do you rank Stetson in performance?
Among all CFB QBs last season, where do you rank Stetson in performance?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:19 am to DawgsLife
Stetson out the team in his back and scored late in the fourth when it mattered. We needed points and he delivered.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:07 am to ReauxlTide222
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I’m curious
Among all CFB QBs last season, where do you rank Stetson in performance?
I'm not DJ.
But I rate top 5.
He hit that mark for QB efficiency.
He hit that mark for y/a.
UGA was top 2 in the SEC (behind bama) for passing TDs in the first half.
(Only 1 TD off the top spot for 3rd quarter as well).
I'm curious.
How many passing yards do you predict for Stetson 2022.
How many passing TDs?
What completion percentage?
What ypa?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 10:53 am to meansonny
3250 passing yards
He could have a fantastic season with 2700 or a mediocre season with 3400. It’s 2022, top college QBs are throwing for 4200+ yards now.
33 TDs
62% completions
7.8 ypa
Idk what y’all’s average starting field position was last year but I’m sure it was BANANAS. Y’all had an amazing point per play last season but didn’t dominate total yards rushing or passing. Both pretty mediocre.
Seems to be the offense was put in about as good a position as humanly possible to succeed with little stress.
I imagine Stetson will have to contribute more to move the ball down the field this year and it will lead to Georgia fans realizing he’s not a goddamn top 5 QB
He could have a fantastic season with 2700 or a mediocre season with 3400. It’s 2022, top college QBs are throwing for 4200+ yards now.
33 TDs
62% completions
7.8 ypa
Idk what y’all’s average starting field position was last year but I’m sure it was BANANAS. Y’all had an amazing point per play last season but didn’t dominate total yards rushing or passing. Both pretty mediocre.
Seems to be the offense was put in about as good a position as humanly possible to succeed with little stress.
I imagine Stetson will have to contribute more to move the ball down the field this year and it will lead to Georgia fans realizing he’s not a goddamn top 5 QB
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:02 am to ReauxlTide222
I guess you haven't read all 18 pages where every single one of your points has been addressed over and over. You may want to read then edit, or just leave your post hanging out there ready to be made to look a fool.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:35 am to deeprig9
What in God’s name is foolish about my post?
Let’s see your predictions so we can come back and compare.
Let’s see your predictions so we can come back and compare.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:42 am to lewis and herschel
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Stetson out the team in his back and scored late in the fourth when it mattered. We needed points and he delivered.
Like I said...he can occasionally put the ball where it needs to be and win a game. He was clutch in the game, no doubt after a tough start. He is a good, solid QB that is/was good enough to win a title. That's what matters.
I won't confuse him with Tua or Burrow, though.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:51 am to ReauxlTide222
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3250 passing yards
He could have a fantastic season with 2700 or a mediocre season with 3400. It’s 2022, top college QBs are throwing for 4200+ yards now.
33 TDs
62% completions
7.8 ypa
I get all of these points, but let's make no mistake about it...there have been QBs that have thrown for a ton of yards that were not really all that good, and there have been QBs that have not thrown for a ton of yards that have been excellent QBs. To equate statistics with how good a QB is, is fools folly and a huge mistake.
quote:You still have to score. I mean was Alabama's offense good or not? Your only TD came from a questionable fumble call (It was probably the correct call, but it was not confirmed, the call on the field was allowed to stand) that gave Alabama the ball at the 15 yard line. Yes, I realize you were missing your two best receivers, but is that the only offense Alabama had? Seriously? If so it was not very good.
Seems to be the offense was put in about as good a position as humanly possible to succeed with little stress.
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I imagine Stetson will have to contribute more to move the ball down the field this year and it will lead to Georgia fans realizing he’s not a goddamn top 5 QB
Fair enough...by the way....can you show me the Georgia poster that has said he is a top 5 QB? Because i haven't seen any of us claim he was.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:52 am to ReauxlTide222
I appreciate you. You are the first person to actually have the balls to make a prediction. I've posted that question at least 10 times to people that either categorize Bennett as a good game manager or as a bad/mediocre QB.
I see 3500 to 3700. The biggest obstacle to yards being that we shut the offense down and run clock late in games (we averaged 3.5 pass attempts in the 4th quarter for 2021).
Stet threw for 2862 in 2021, didn't play in every game, and only had 35 passing attempts in the 4th quarter all season (Stetson threw the ball 25 times in the 4th quarter against Bama in his 2 opportunities. For reference, he had 1 pass attempt in the 4th quarter of the Orange Bowl against Michigan where he was named the MVP).
If we play good teams like Bama more often, he would be more likely to exceed 3700.
We are the same. I see 35 TDs (half of the games with 2. Half of the games with 3. Todd Monken gets pass happy in the red zone. And we seemingly destroy man coverage over the top).
Stet was 64.5% in 2021. I see more of the same. We combine a lot of screens and underneath with deep shots. The result of high completion and low completion throws should be about 63-65%.
Stet threw for 10 ypa in 2021.
This is stets 3rd season with OC Todd Monken. His first off-season to work with the #1 offense.
We return our top 3 receiving targets from 2021. We potentially add Gilbert, Dell, a healthy Arian Smith, and a healthy Dom Blaylock.
I wouldn't be shocked by 9.5 to 10.5 unless we face a bunch of dominant front 4s.
You are on record. I am finally on record. I appreciate the reply.
I'm surprised a Bama fan doesn't remember what it is like to run out a clock in the 4th quarter. Bama ran 167 more offensive plays than UGA on 2021. That is 2.65 more games' worth of plays by our offensive standard (we played the same amount of games).
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3250 passing yards
He could have a fantastic season with 2700 or a mediocre season with 3400. It’s 2022, top college QBs are throwing for 4200+ yards now.
I see 3500 to 3700. The biggest obstacle to yards being that we shut the offense down and run clock late in games (we averaged 3.5 pass attempts in the 4th quarter for 2021).
Stet threw for 2862 in 2021, didn't play in every game, and only had 35 passing attempts in the 4th quarter all season (Stetson threw the ball 25 times in the 4th quarter against Bama in his 2 opportunities. For reference, he had 1 pass attempt in the 4th quarter of the Orange Bowl against Michigan where he was named the MVP).
If we play good teams like Bama more often, he would be more likely to exceed 3700.
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33 TDs
We are the same. I see 35 TDs (half of the games with 2. Half of the games with 3. Todd Monken gets pass happy in the red zone. And we seemingly destroy man coverage over the top).
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62% completions
7.8 ypa
Stet was 64.5% in 2021. I see more of the same. We combine a lot of screens and underneath with deep shots. The result of high completion and low completion throws should be about 63-65%.
Stet threw for 10 ypa in 2021.
This is stets 3rd season with OC Todd Monken. His first off-season to work with the #1 offense.
We return our top 3 receiving targets from 2021. We potentially add Gilbert, Dell, a healthy Arian Smith, and a healthy Dom Blaylock.
I wouldn't be shocked by 9.5 to 10.5 unless we face a bunch of dominant front 4s.
You are on record. I am finally on record. I appreciate the reply.
I'm surprised a Bama fan doesn't remember what it is like to run out a clock in the 4th quarter. Bama ran 167 more offensive plays than UGA on 2021. That is 2.65 more games' worth of plays by our offensive standard (we played the same amount of games).
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:55 am to DawgsLife
quote:That isn’t how most people describe a top 5 QB
He is a good, solid QB that is/was good enough to win a title.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:59 am to ReauxlTide222
I think that Bennett will have a much bigger year statistically this year but will probably be less efficient. A lot of that will have to do with the fact that field position won't be as good, they may have some games where they have to keep scoring, etc.
2021
185/287 (64.5%)
2,862 yards
10 YPA
29 TD / 7 INT
176.69 Rating
I'll go..........
2022
285/425 (67%)
4,000 yards
9.4 YPA
34 TD / 9 INT
168.28 Rating (that would have been #7 in the nation in 2021)
Which, ironically, would be very similar to AJ McCarron's senior year in 2013 (who I said he reminds me of way back on like page 5).
AJ McCarron - 2013
226/336 (67%)
3,063 yards
9.1 YPA
28 TD / 7 INT
167.16 Rating (#8 Nationally in 2013)
2021
185/287 (64.5%)
2,862 yards
10 YPA
29 TD / 7 INT
176.69 Rating
I'll go..........
2022
285/425 (67%)
4,000 yards
9.4 YPA
34 TD / 9 INT
168.28 Rating (that would have been #7 in the nation in 2021)
Which, ironically, would be very similar to AJ McCarron's senior year in 2013 (who I said he reminds me of way back on like page 5).
AJ McCarron - 2013
226/336 (67%)
3,063 yards
9.1 YPA
28 TD / 7 INT
167.16 Rating (#8 Nationally in 2013)
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:59 am to DawgsLife
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I get all of these points, but let's make no mistake about it...there have been QBs that have thrown for a ton of yards that were not really all that good, and there have been QBs that have not thrown for a ton of yards that have been excellent QBs. To equate statistics with how good a QB is, is fools folly and a huge mistake.
He was answering my direct question.
I typically ask anyone who claims Stet is a game manager or average/mediocre QB to put some numbers out there. No one replies because any number they put out contradicts their impression of what a game manager QB is.
Or in this guys case, he is imagining stetsons ypa to go from 10 down to 7.8.
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I imagine Stetson will have to contribute more to move the ball down the field this year and it will lead to Georgia fans realizing he’s not a goddamn top 5 QB
Fair enough...by the way....can you show me the Georgia poster that has said he is a top 5 QB? Because i haven't seen any of us claim he was.
It was me. He asked a direct question.
I said top 5 in the country.
Stetson was top 5 in the country in efficiency and ypa.
UGA was number 2 in the conference (behind Bama) for passing TDs in the first half.
UGA was only 1 passing TD away from being #1 in the conference for passing TDs in the 3rd quarter.
Stetson threw a total of 35 pass attempts in the 4th quarter. 25 of those were against Bama in the SECCG and NCG. Only 1 against Michigan in the Orange Bowl where Stet was the MVP.
cfbstats Stetson Bennett situational stats 2021
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:04 pm to Smokeyone
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If it werent true, you would have tried to explain how our 3 star freshman WR's were so talented and experienced that other teams just couldnt handle them. You didnt because you know how dumb it would be to do so.
The D depth is the major factor in my UGA wins, the combination of 1st and last year coaches is why they were able to miss their annual shite the bed game, and crippling injuries on Bama is why they were awarded a national title.
The UGA O without the rest was not good enough to beat anyone.
Why is a Tennessee fan butting in on a discussion of college football?
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:05 pm to DawgsLife
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.can you show me the Georgia poster that has said he is a top 5 QB? Because i haven't seen any of us claim he was.
Top 5 in SEC. Not nationally.
Many of us claim that. There was a post on here weeks ago with some two bit outfit naming their top 5 QB's in the SEC and Stetson wasn't on the list. Many of us fired back with stats like #1 in YPA. #2 in QB rating. #4 in total TD's (despite not being the starter for a good portion of the season). To not even be considered as a top 5 in the SEC going into 2022 is laughable. That's not even considering his two MVP awards in the Orange Bowl and NC.
You should probably exit this chat.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:07 pm to ReauxlTide222
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That isn’t how most people describe a top 5 QB
I never said he was a top 5 QB. When you start talking about top 5 QBs you have to then start setting other parameters. How are you deciding what a top 5 QB is? Everybody has a different opinion as to what a top 5 QB is. Some would say winning a title makes you a top 5 QB. (I wouldn't) Some would say success in the NFL determines if someone is a top 5 QB. (Again, I wouldn't, because we are talking about college)
So...what is a top 5 QB? Are basing it only on statistics...and if so which statistics? Is it raw yards/TD/INTs? Is if PFF? Before anyone can have an informed opinion you have to set parameters.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:08 pm to deeprig9
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Top 5 in SEC. Not nationally.
Ah! I should have read through this. Sorry.
I think (my opinion) that a definite argument could be made that he is a top 5 SEC QB.
But again, parameters have to be set.
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:10 pm to DawgsLife
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I think (my opinion) that a definite argument could be made that he is a top 5 SEC QB.
But again, parameters have to be set.
Stetson is the grandchild of the pre-Tua Alabama QB debates. "It's easier for him because of the team that plays around him" somehow morphs into "Anybody could do it therefore this random QB from Eastern State U who throws as many INTs as TDs is ACTUALLY better than him because its harder for him or something".
The fact that people are ranking Spencer Rattler - who played in the most QB stat friendly system on the planet and did not put up good stats - ahead of him is just silliness.
This post was edited on 8/4/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/4/22 at 12:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2022
300/450 (66%)
4,000 yards
8.9 YPA
34 TD / 9 INT
162.27 Rating (that would have been #11 in the nation in 2021)
We are close.
I see 3500-3700 yards.
We beat 13 teams by 15+ points in 2021.
11 teams by 20+ points
10 teams by 24+ points
6 teams by 30+ points
4 teams by 40+ points
We know our defense is taking a step back. But we will still have plenty of games up by 3 scores (17+) in the 4th quarter where we will kill clock on offense.
Stet won't get the chance for over 3800.
I see 35 TDs and 10 INTs.
Stet struggles against zone coverages. He will get picked. But he will make up for it against man coverage. We have too many weapons that Monken/Stet will find the mismatch.
It really will take pressure on the QB to limit the offense (which can be tough to do against an above average running game and avoiding man coverage on the back end).
I don't expect the completion percentage and ypa to stray too far.
Losing Burton (and the 5 catches by Pickens) can impact the ypa.
But Stetson found Ladd McConkey, AD Mitchell, Arian Smith, and Brock Bowers downfield several times in 2021. Even Kenny McIntosh out of the backfield. Add possibly Gilbert and Delp...
I'm not worried about Pickens and Burton moving on.
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