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re: Stetson Bennett
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
As for your original requeset, sonny covered it very well, so no need to repeat the same exact discussion.
How do you explain UGA's high Yards per play if this is the case?
We scored tds on the 1st 2 drives of the game. Drives were 75 and 56 yards. They were run heavy drives, but Bennett went 3/4 for 49 yards, and had 9 yards rushing. We really had no need to pass after this.
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I need to find some starting field position stats. Something is telling me y’all’s defense was a MAJOR factor in all of this and not some super offensive that was able to sit on the ball after total domination.
How do you explain UGA's high Yards per play if this is the case?
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The start of the Arkansas game, if I remember correctly, is a good game to show the point I’d like to make.
We scored tds on the 1st 2 drives of the game. Drives were 75 and 56 yards. They were run heavy drives, but Bennett went 3/4 for 49 yards, and had 9 yards rushing. We really had no need to pass after this.
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Posted on 8/4/22 at 11:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
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. Y’all had an amazing point per play last season but didn’t dominate total yards rushing or passing.
Bennett yards per pass attempt was pretty damn good.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:30 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The fact that people are ranking Spencer Rattler - who played in the most QB stat friendly system on the planet and did not put up good stats - ahead of him is just silliness.
Rattler put up very good stats at OU in 2020 so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm not onboard with him being a great SEC QB by any measure, but he did well enough in his one full season.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:52 am to djsdawg
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. Y’all had an amazing point per play last season but didn’t dominate total yards rushing or passing.
Bennett yards per pass attempt was pretty damn good
Bennett threw the ball 35 times in the 4th quarter last season.
About 25 of those were against Bama (only 1 against Michigan).
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:55 am to ReauxlTide222
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Y’all had an amazing point per play last season but didn’t dominate total yards rushing or passing. Both pretty mediocre.
UGA was third in conference (behind Bama and Ole miss) in passing yards 1st half at 169.13
Edit to add: our ground game was average last season. We were very efficient in the redzone. But yards per rush and yards were middle of the pack for the conference. Some of that is running into stacked boxes in the 2nd half (bleeding clock. Bama ran about 2.6 games worth of more plays than UGA last season). But dawg fans won't deny that we didn't look like Swift, Michel, Chubb, Gurley brand running games.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 7:00 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:57 am to meansonny
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only 1 against Michigan).
Ask smokeyone why this was a case and he runs away like he is Forrest Gump.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:00 am to jonnyanony
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I'm not onboard with him being a great SEC QB by any measure, but he did well enough in his one full season.
The only reason he didn't have two full seasons is because he was a total mess in 2021. He lost his job to Williams.
Oddly enough, he was 6-0 and his comp % was up. However, he began throwing INTs at an alarming rate (11TD 5INTs)
This is actually why using raw statistics is not always a good idea, because the games i saw him in he was absolutely overwhelmed and had regressed.
I agree that he has potential and might turn out to be a very good QB, though.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:01 am to DawgsLife
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The only reason he didn't have two full seasons is because he was a total mess in 2021. He lost his job to Williams.
Well yeah, I think everyone knows this.
He had one really good full season and one meltdown season. But to say he didn't have good stats while at OU is ... well, not right. It's also more evidence that stats alone don't tell much of a story.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:02 am
Posted on 8/5/22 at 10:54 am to jonnyanony
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He had one really good full season and one meltdown season. But to say he didn't have good stats while at OU is ... well, not right.
Well, for the offense he was in and going by stats that previous QBs had the success rate they had, his numbers were lackluster. Standing alone? Yes. His stats were fine. But when considered that the previous QBs 9Not Hurts but he was not very good, either) his stats were very pedestrian. maybe the BIG 12 was catching up to Lincoln Riley's offensive schems (Much like the SEC caught up with Malzahn) but when you consider the scheme was set up for QB success....
For instance:
Baker Mayfield 4627yards 43TD 6 INTs
Kyler Murray 4361yards 42Td 7INTs
Spencer Rattler 3031yards 28TD 7INTs
I get that Rattler was younger but (in his second year) but Murray only played one full season and Mayfield had better stats in every season he started than Rattler.
For the offense he was in, Rattler showed promise, but compared to his predecessors had average stats.
I guess it is all opinion, and you very well could be right. We'll know more this year how good Rattler is. He could make or break South Carolina's season. He needs to show more poise and decision making. Maybe he will.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:25 am to DawgsLife
You're comparing him to two Heisman seasons to show his numbers were "lackluster"
ok dude
ok dude
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:51 pm to jonnyanony
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You're comparing him to two Heisman seasons to show his numbers were "lackluster"
ok dude
Why were the Heisman winners? I mean Spenser Rattler was a 5* heralded QB. Mayfield was a walk on.
They were Heisman winners because they played in a system that favored QB play.
Are you forgetting that rattler was the Heisman favorite entering into the season?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:16 pm to DawgsLife
There's a difference between "Heisman-level" and "not good"
Figure it out.
I'm not out here saying Rattler is awesome but he put up good stats. Heisman stats? No. Nobody said that.
Figure it out.
I'm not out here saying Rattler is awesome but he put up good stats. Heisman stats? No. Nobody said that.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:26 pm to jonnyanony
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There's a difference between "Heisman-level" and "not good"
You are correct. but nobody said he was not good. The post that you responded to was this by Summer of George:
The fact that people are ranking Spencer Rattler - who played in the most QB stat friendly system on the planet and did not put up good stats - ahead of him is just silliness.
He simply said it was a mistake to rank Rattler ahead of Bennett, because in a system that highly faovred QBs, Rattler did not put up good stats. (I took that to mean relative to the system and previous QBs that played in the system's stats.
quote:Not really considering the system and previous stats put up in that system. Even Hurts, who was not all that good put up 3,800 yards and 32TDs and 8INTs.
I'm not out here saying Rattler is awesome but he put up good stats.
quote:And nobody said he was not good. The whole thing started because we said at this point he should not be ranked above Stetson Bennett. That was all. Do you think he should be ranked above Bennett as a QB? If not, then you agree with us. If you do, then make your case and we can have a discussion.
Heisman stats? No. Nobody said that.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:45 pm to jonnyanony
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UGA had more surrounding talent around Bennett than anyone they played.
How was this not true for 2020?
Posted on 8/6/22 at 5:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Stetson is the grandchild of the pre-Tua Alabama QB debates. "It's easier for him because of the team that plays around him" somehow morphs into "Anybody could do it therefore this random QB from Eastern State U who throws as many INTs as TDs is ACTUALLY better than him because its harder for him or something".
Pretty much.
Posted on 8/6/22 at 6:42 pm to jonnyanony
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It's also more evidence that stats alone don't tell much of a story.
Let me guess. Context that you can’t describe or explain blah blah blah
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