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re: Stetson Bennett

Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:49 pm to
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Stats prove far more than you can fathom


Holy shite man leave your mom's basement.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Nobody who watched a minute of football would believe this. It is an insane opinion.



The stats indicate Joe Burrow improved from 2018 to 2019.

You are insane to think I am wrong about that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:53 pm to
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Holy shite man leave your mom's basement.




Again, if you think stats don’t mean shite, then you better have something else that better details a player’s performance.

You have nothing.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:56 pm to
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I have made it many times. The talent accrued at UGA the four years prior by your staff is incredible and you could throw many QBs back there who'd have similar performances.

Tr Fr Ladd McConkey 3 star was our leading receiver with 31 receptions

Tr Fr AD Mitchell 3 star was 2nd leading receiver with 29 receptions.

Tr Fr stud tight end Brock Bowers was a high 4 star (but nowhere near a 5 star) and led everyone with 56 catches.

That kind of talent at receiver?
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Most people see this, which is why he's ranked middle of the pack.

They should look again.
3 freshmen led the team in receptions.
The 4th leading target was our 3rd down RB (James Cook) who was highly touted out of high school but had the opposite approach to our freshmen WRs (slightly improved each season to where he finally got the good draft grade as a senior)
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Not sure what else to tell you. Hope you find peace with winning a title with a good QB. Personally I'd be pretty happy and not screaming about how disrespected my QB was.

You really aren't telling me anything about how Stetson Bennett's stats lack context.

It sounds like a cop-out to me. We can agree to disagree.

What numbers do you expect from a game manager QB at UGA in 2022? Maybe that will provide me some context.

Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9936 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:58 pm to
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What numbers do you expect from a game manager QB at UGA in 2022? Maybe that will provide me some context.


A little worse but still good. Everyone will see it for what it is but UGA fans will see John Elway down there.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9936 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 6:59 pm to
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Again, if you think stats don’t mean shite,


Me: stats alone are meaningless. Context matters.

You: stats determine how good a player is

I think I'll stick on my side.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:00 pm to
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A little worse but still good. Everyone will see it for what it is but UGA fans will see John Elway down there


I will let you fill in the blank

Yards
TDs
INTs
Completion percentage
Yards per attempt

What is a game manager for UGA in 2022 going to do. "A little worse" is a little vague.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:01 pm to
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And some QBs stats went down. And that doesn't mean they got worse.


Lets walk through a hypothetical:

Season 1 stats were 400 attempts, 4000 yards, 40 tds, 5 ints
Season 2 stats were 400 attempts, 3000 yards, 20 tds, 20 ints

Using your logic, does this prove the QB performance got better or worse?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:03 pm to
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Me: stats alone are meaningless. Context matters.



Problem is you cant explain the context, so stop talking about context until you figure that part out.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9936 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:25 pm to
Let me try one more time: UGA had more surrounding talent around Bennett than anyone they played.

I know you'll are going to weirdly start denigrating the rest of your team but that's why you won a title.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:33 pm to
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Let me try one more time: UGA had more surrounding talent around Bennett than anyone they played.


Same was the case in 2020, so how did his stats suddenly improve so much?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Let me try one more time: UGA had more surrounding talent around Bennett than anyone they played.


Yeah, there was talent on the defense.

But again, the wide receivers were led by a couple of 3 star freshmen.
The tight end was a very good freshman.
The top receiving running back wasn't good enough to go pro after 3 years.
The other running back had 2 ACL surgeries.
The left tackle was supposed to be the left guard.
The right guard (low 4 star) started game 1 as our center.
The center was a high 4 star freshman who got promoted when the RG broke his foot.
The right tackle was a true sophomore (low 4 star).
The left guard was a high 3 star.

This is the SEC. Lots of teams have 3 and 4 stars littered along the OL and receiving Corp. Where UGA excelled was having backups ready to step in when needed.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9936 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Same was the case in 2020


In fact I don't think this is true.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 8:07 pm to
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In fact I don't think this is true.


How so?

You dont seem to know details about our roster at all, just like you didnt know the aggie roster at all.

You are forcing us to correct your false assumptions.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 9:17 pm to
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So another QB has significant stats in the 3rd and 4th quarter in games? I looked and just don’t see it. It seems that once Bennett started he played all but the last series or 2.


You already admitted less pass attempts skewed his total number of yards down.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 4:51 am to
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I know you'll are going to weirdly start denigrating the rest of your team but that's why you won a title.


If it werent true, you would have tried to explain how our 3 star freshman WR's were so talented and experienced that other teams just couldnt handle them.

You didnt because you know how dumb it would be to do so.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15937 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 5:53 am to
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If it werent true, you would have tried to explain how our 3 star freshman WR's were so talented and experienced that other teams just couldnt handle them. You didnt because you know how dumb it would be to do so.


The D depth is the major factor in my UGA wins, the combination of 1st and last year coaches is why they were able to miss their annual shite the bed game, and crippling injuries on Bama is why they were awarded a national title.

The UGA O without the rest was not good enough to beat anyone.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:25 am to
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The UGA O without the rest was not good enough to beat anyone.


The offense scored 38+ ppg.
And that is from an offense that passed the ball 3.6 times per game in the 4th quarter (we can thank the defense for being in that position so many times. But the fact is that 38 ppg was throttled way down in about 11 games last season).
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:36 am to
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I think they're very similar stories. Good game-manager type QBs who can win games and put up numbers when they have that kind of talent around them.


I actually think this is fair. Do I believe Bennett is a world beater? No. Do I think he is capable, and can beat you if he is ignored or underestimated? yes. He is a solid QB that can manage the game and occasionally put the ball where it needs to be to win a game.

He is not some savior QB that puts the team on his back, and he is not some hapless doofus that trips every time he walks on the field. He is somewhere in between. Solid.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 6:41 am to
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Let me try one more time: UGA had more surrounding talent around Bennett than anyone they played.

Alabama had more offensive talent. Georgia just did more with the talent we had and had more depth.

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I know you'll are going to weirdly start denigrating the rest of your team but that's why you won a title.

I can't remember who you are responding to, but I won't denigrate or talent. It was good solid talent. (The defense was outstanding, obviously) Our offensive talent was beaten up and injured, and the young guys stepped up in their place, worked hard and became very solid. They performed well together....but they were still very young and inexperienced.

Even on defense we started a walk on in the secondary. (Dan Jackson)
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