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re: Stetson Bennett will pass for 4000 yards this year

Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15873 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Almost, if not all, of throws in the 4th q came against bama.


Not at all. UGA was a running team with no QB. No reason to expose your greatest weakness.

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189 throws first half 98 throws second half


So not going game by game to actually look a situational play. Just an oversimplification that does nothing
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:23 pm to
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Not at all. UGA was a running team with no QB. No reason to expose your greatest weakness.


When the #4 passing O In the nation is a greatest weakness on team, that’s a loaded team. No wonder you had to watch uga win a national title.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:24 pm to
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So not going game by game to actually look a situational play. J


Those numbers include every single game played by Stetson Bennett.

What situations do you want to discuss?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Not at all. UGA was a running team with no QB. No reason to expose your greatest weakness.


It's one thing to say Bennett won't throw for 4000 due to one reason or another, but to say he can't throw for 4000 is just pure ignorance.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 1:31 pm to
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I think Georgia has really good talent everywhere and have several good receivers. Probably better than most give them credit for just because style of play. However you’re nowhere close to the level that Ohio Stand Bama have had in recent years


Who said anything about Bama and Ohio St.?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15873 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:06 pm to
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It's one thing to say Bennett won't throw for 4000 due to one reason or another, but to say he can't throw for 4000 is just pure ignorance.


Why? He personally lacked the durability and arm to be in an O that puts up 4,000 yards. UGA doesn’t have the WRs to do it and Kirby doesn’t have the mentality to do and Monken doesn’t have the system to do it.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:11 pm to
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UGA doesn’t have the WRs to do it


It is the second time that you have posted this. Of these receiving targets, which ones will not be drafted?

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Brock Bowers - Ladd McConkey - AD Mitchell - Kearis Jackson - Arik Gilbert - Darnell Washington - Dom Blaylock - Arian Smith - Oscar Delp - Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint - Kenny McIntosh

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:13 pm to
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Brock Bowers - Ladd McConkey - AD Mitchell - Kearis Jackson - Arik Gilbert - Darnell Washington - Dom Blaylock - Arian Smith - Oscar Delp - Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint - Kenny McIntosh


You forgot The Seither.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:14 pm to
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Monken doesn’t have the system to do it.


Wtf?

Monken's offense passed for 2500 yards in the first half of games last season.

Are you blaming being up by 2+ scores and running the ball on the offensive system or quality of opponents such as tennessee?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5451 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:15 pm to
2021 pass yards: 2,862

Seems like a big jump
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:15 pm to
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You forgot The Seither.


You may be on to something. I thought fitz wouldnt get drafted and i was wrong.

Cant fight the seither.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:18 pm to
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2021 pass yards: 2,862

Seems like a big jump


Maybe. He sat for about 12 quarters on the year (about 3 games worth).
And in the 2nd half of games that he did play, he only averaged 7 passes in the 2nd half of games.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:18 pm to
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actually look a situational play.


Let’s do Michigan.

Why do you think Bennett only attempted 1 4th q pass?

A. Uga decided to run the clock out because our passing offense was so damn good as proven by 313 yards on only 30 attempts.

B. UGA was a running team with no QB.
C. UGA doesn’t have the WRs to do it.
D. Kirby doesn’t have the mentality to do.
E. Monken doesn’t have the system to do it.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15873 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:30 pm to
Brock Bowers If he stays healthy and keeps up his production should be drafted based on ability.

Ladd McConkey, Kearis Jackson, and AD Mitchell Will need to really step up their game, likely transfer to have a shot. I know you were impressed with them but 400 yard WRs with nothing special about them are a dime a dozen.

Arik Gilbert- all the talent in the world but a .10 head. He needs huge numbers and a couple years to overcome quoting on 2 different teams. If drafted it will be a high risk pick.

Darnell Washington Has shown nothing to warrant a draft pick. Free Agent contract for a team looking for special teams/blocking TE or he changes position.

Dom Blaylock 2 knees made him undraftable at this point. Was my favorite WR on UGAs team.

Arian Smith- as of now, nope

Oscar Delp- potential. Better off transferring.

Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint- shown nothing special

Kenny McIntosh - is he out of the dog house after his arrest? Fully recovered from the car crash? Nothing special as an APB the NFL looks for.



Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:33 pm to
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11 regular season games, a 3 post season games… so it took 14 games to get there. 200 yards a game with teams selling out to stop the run.



He played in partial games in a couple of those, so.....

He did not play against Clemson
Got cleanup time against SC (Threw 3 passes while Daniels threw 31)
Came in about halftime against Vanderbilt when Daniels went down

So, yeah. He played in 11 regular season games, but missed almost the entire games in 2 of those and only played a half game in another one. But yeah. Go ahead and ignore those facts.

Don't you ever get tired of being obtuse or is it just a hobby that you ave very good at?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Brock Bowers If he stays healthy and keeps up his production should be drafted based on ability.


Not good enough based on his performance on the field?

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Oscar Delp- potential. Better off transferring.

Because we don't use our TEs?

I would tear apart your other hot takes, but just reposting these is enough to show off how much you know.
Posted by so_comfort
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:37 pm to
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I think Georgia has really good talent everywhere and have several good receivers. Probably better than most give them credit for just because style of play. However you’re nowhere close to the level that Ohio Stand Bama have had in recent years. Bama almost won a national title last year solely because their top two receivers were unstoppable.

Georgia could put up really good numbers and have guys drafted but they don’t have the kind of talent that can carry an entire team. (Bowers at TE maybe the best TE we’ve seen but I’m talking about WR specifically)


To build on that, UGA's WRs are like death by 1000 cuts. There are a bunch of good, talented guys that all do the little things right to be successful. They can all make a big grab and get some YAC. There may not be a sure fire first rounder in there, but who cares if you can get the job done.

The sure fire first rounder that defenses have to game plan around is, as you stated, Bowers at TE. Which is actually more of a matchup nightmare to opposing defenses due to personnel groupings. His presence actually makes the WRs' job that much easier.

The other side of this coin is playing it like Bama does where they force feed 2 or 3 guys instead of spreading it around. That can work, but as we all saw in the Championship game it can also be dangerous when you have a guy go down and no one with experience to step up.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Let’s do Michigan.

Why do you think Bennett only attempted 1 4th q pass?

A. Uga decided to run the clock out because our passing offense was so damn good as proven by 313 yards on only 30 attempts.

B. UGA was a running team with no QB.
C. UGA doesn’t have the WRs to do it.
D. Kirby doesn’t have the mentality to do.
E. Monken doesn’t have the system to do it.


Mememememe! Can i answer that?

I figure Smokey will mess the answer up.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:49 pm to
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Nothing special as an APB the NFL looks for.


I bet you were shocked to see James cook get drafted. Being able to be an effective weapon in the passing game helps.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:16 pm to
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Brock Bowers If he stays healthy and keeps up his production should be drafted based on ability.


Brock Bowers is a 1st round draft pick based on athleticism. You seem to overvalue production and undervalue what a player can bring to the next level.

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Ladd McConkey, Kearis Jackson, and AD Mitchell Will need to really step up their game, likely transfer to have a shot. I know you were impressed with them but 400 yard WRs with nothing special about them are a dime a dozen.


Again, you overvalue production and undervalue athleticism and skillsets.
Ladd has yet to be shut down in man coverage. I wont say that a CB cant do it. But he didnt face a corner that he couldnt stack (including our own corners).

AD Mitchell has the build to get drafted. His route tree is limited and he doesnt have elite athletic traits. I can agree that he has work to do. But he looks like a typical 5-7 rounder until he can show more consistency. He was hurt in 2021 by pass interference. He drew more calls than anyone else on the team. Obviously, he is doing something right to get the DBs to get caught cheating. But it would look better if he won the reps with catches.

Kearis probably gets drafted (7th round special teamer). But i agree. He is a zone target over the middle who doesnt have elite traits. He doesnt beat man coverage often. Injuries have hampered him for 2 years now. A healthy year could change that.

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Arik Gilbert- all the talent in the world but a .10 head. He needs huge numbers and a couple years to overcome quoting on 2 different teams. If drafted it will be a high risk pick.

Agree to disagree. One of us will be wrong and one will be right. No arguments. I have listened to terrance edwards speak on him and i have faith that things have improved.
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Darnell Washington Has shown nothing to warrant a draft pick. Free Agent contract for a team looking for special teams/blocking TE or he changes position.

Lol
Lets bet something. You are so focused on stats. You have no clue about the nfl. What are your terms? As is, he is a 3rd to 4th round draft pick. Great hands. High points the ball. No defender wants to be blocked by washington that he is open on every playaction (monken/bennett choose the home run play and i dont blame them).
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Dom Blaylock 2 knees made him undraftable at this point. Was my favorite WR on UGAs team.

Zeus had 2 knees and was drafted in the 4th round at a "no value" position (RB). There isnt anything that Dom cant do. The question is level of competition (he looks great against the arkansas states, georgia techs, auburns of the world. He has yet to do show his potential against the better talented defenders).
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Arian Smith- as of now, nope

If Arian Smith stays healthy, Bennett hits 4000 yards even if we dominate opponents and shut down the passing game in the 2nd half. Smith's vertical threat changes how teams defend us and open up so much for monken.
If he can stay healthy a full season, he is a top 3 round draft pick on his speed alone (1st team all american in track. 10.1 on the 100m).
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Oscar Delp- potential. Better off transferring.

Looks like a slower bowers but smoother athlete. Brock is 1st round on athleticism alone. Delp is getting drafted.
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Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint- shown nothing special

Less talented version of AD Mitchell. Probably wont get drafted.
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Kenny McIntosh - is he out of the dog house after his arrest? Fully recovered from the car crash? Nothing special as an APB the NFL looks for.

Better catch radius version of James Cook. Cook was taken pick 63 in the second round. I expect better numbers this year for McIntosh than Cook. Draft pick will be about the same (late 2nd early third). McIntosh beats man coverage down the sideline and angle/arrow route beats zone underneath. The catch radius may make him a favorite target for stetson.
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