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re: State fans... What's your opinion of Rick Stansbury?

Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:22 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:22 am to
His recruiting is the only reason Billy Kennedy will still have a job next year. Stay the frick away.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4457 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:02 am to
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He is a very good recruiter, and while at State was also good with defense and rebounding.

He never really developed offensive acumen and while we made tournaments, we typically did not perform well in them.

By the end of his tenure at State he was done. He didn't seem to have control of the team and seemed worn down. Maybe his time away and time as an assistant again has rejuvenated him.

State did the right thing in parting ways with him, but completely flopped the subsequent hire.

There was a lot of hate between him and Gotfried at bama though, and that really made the state-bama hoops series fun.


I agree with all of this.

Stansbury was lax in getting his players to lift/train with weights. Weight coach wanted to help, kids didn't care, and Stans didn't make them. Our players were still skinny after 4-5 years in the program. Yet somehow we were able to be one of the top rebounding/defensive teams in the SEC for most Stans' years at State.

When Stanbury's teams would suddenly switch to a zone defense in the middle of a game, it was fun to watch. Other teams seems so confused, and it often stopped their momentum or helped State build momentum.

The worst thing about Stansbury was losing to bad teams before the conference season began. A couple of bad pre-conference losses and a slightly above average conference record put us on the NCAA bubble nearly every year.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4274 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:09 am to
He is an underperformer at best. Just say no.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:14 am to
The NCAA was about to come down hard on us and Rick if he hadn't have stepped down.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:19 am to
Scumbag. Avoid.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:20 am to
Stansfield is a snake cheater







But I think he would recruit the shite out of Atlanta and Georgia would probably be better if they hired him.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:21 am to
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There was a lot of hate between him and Gotfried at bama though, and that really made the state-bama hoops series fun.



Was the best. The State-Bama games when I was in college were rowdy as hell. It was a great, great series with tons of hatred and tons of really, really good basketball players.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2636 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:28 am to
Stans is a good coach he just stayed too long and eventually sold out to players like Jamont Gordon and Renardo Sydney and it cost him his job. Our last couple teams had serious attitude problems and no one was ever suspended or sat down
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:30 am to
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Stans is a good coach he just stayed too long and eventually sold out to players like Jamont Gordon and Renardo Sydney and it cost him his job. Our last couple teams had serious attitude problems and no one was ever suspended or sat down


Yea, the more I think about it the more I think that Georgia would actually be a really good spot for him.

Giant local talent base, low expectations (relatively). He would have that roster really good really quickly.
Posted by MsState of mind
State of Denial
Member since Aug 2013
2636 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:30 am to
With all that said he had some great teams early on and recruits with the best of them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:31 am to
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With all that said he had some great teams early on and recruits with the best of them.


Plus maybe we could convince Georgia to sign a home and home with NC State to watch the two old lovers quarrel again.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:47 am to
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The NCAA was about to come down hard on us and Rick if he hadn't have stepped down

You've thrown this out a lot but you've never elaborated on it.


Rick is basically Dale Brown that had the unfortunate seeding in the NCAA tourney. We were always matched against those unsuspected teams that turned out to be pretty good. Or matched up against Duke in which the refs gave that game to them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:48 am to
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Rick is basically Dale Brown that had the unfortunate seeding in the NCAA tourney.


Stansfield and Gottfried are 2 peas in a pod, from their recruiting talents and coach deficits to their postseason performance to the way their tenures ended.

This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 8:49 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18006 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 8:52 am to
Elite recruiter.
Good defensive coach.
Terrible offensive coach.
Not great at hiring assistant coaches that could offset his terribleness on offense.

Had at least three teams that should have made the Sweet 16. The 2004 team was #4 in the nation and 26-2 in the regular season and didn't make it out of the second round. Just could not coach in the NCAA Tournament past the first game. The two day turnaround to face a new team with a different style killed him.

Won a couple SEC Tournaments on the heels of great seeding back when the SEC had divisions.

Overall, I think his major problem was loyalty to subpar assistants. His top assistant was Phil Cunningham, who went to the same NAIA college that Stans did in Kentucky and was Stans' coach's son. Stans had incredible loyalty to him despite him being over his head. However, Phil is now the head coach at Troy, where he was 21-39 in two seasons.

His other assistants are now high school coaches in Mississippi.

Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:17 am to
I was there immediately after he left. The NCAA was cracking down about the money men. We had multiple players that were knowingly supposed to be suspended or ineligible playing. As well as our GSR had fallen a lot the past few years because of transfers, etc. Why do think Kristers Zeidaks and Shaun Smith were kicked off the team over that summer? It was their third offense since Rick Ray was hired. The team had no discipline at all. I've expounded on all this before.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:31 am to
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The NCAA was cracking down about the money men.
This part not the other. I'm not hanging on sixpack as much lately and maybe I've been under the rock but what was the NCAA cracking down on in regards to moeny men. I know stans had discipline issues on the team.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:40 am to
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Or matched up against Duke in which the refs gave that game to them.


frick that game right in the arse. Never forget.

Best memory from that game: Sheldon Williams going up to dunk wide open in the lane, tongue sticking out, pinned on the rim. What an embarrassment.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:51 am to
I've never set foot on sixpack. You can choose to believe what I say or not. If you don't believe Stans had money men in his back pocket then you are naive. I knew about that long before I worked within the program. I was working for the basketball program at ICC and the coaches their loathed Stans because of how dirty he was.
Posted by Gulf Coast Grinder
Member since May 2014
224 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:13 am to
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There was a lot of hate between him and Gotfried at bama though, and that really made the state-bama hoops series fun.


Started by the recruitment of Mario Austin (from AL played at MSU) and Mo Williams (from MS played at Bama). The rumors of their hatred for each other really got going those recruiting cycles in 2001 and 2002 (if I remember correctly).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:17 am to
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Started by the recruitment of Mario Austin (from AL played at MSU) and Mo Williams (from MS played at Bama). The rumors of their hatred for each other really got going those recruiting cycles in 2001 and 2002 (if I remember correctly).



Yep - then the "Coach Stansfield" thing with Walter Sharpe in 2004, too.

That rivalry was fun as hell.
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