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re: State does not anticipate a coaching change
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:02 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:02 am to Lonnie Utah
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Lebby can't help that Kamario got hurt. If he says healthy State has a totally different season.
It's Lebby's fault the QB gets hurt due to how bad the O line blocks. Shapen missed 10 games (24 & 25 season) and Taylor will miss 8 games this season, The starting QB has been out due to injury 50% of Lebby's 36 regular season games.
If Taylor, Lebby & the same shitty O line are back next year its likely Tayor is hurt again next season.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:06 am to Lonnie Utah
he CAN help the fact that his backup qb and that backup aren't even remotely capable of running an offense or the fact that our offensive line would be on par with directional schools. you cant have all your eggs in one basket especially if that basket is as injury prone as KT has been in his young career. hes got 8 career starts, really 7 because he played injured vs oklahoma for a couple of series. kid might be the best cfb player 3 or 4 games in, but the way he plays, he won't survive any season. we saw it last year, we saw it again this year. no excuses not to have a couple of competent backups on the team and an offensive line that can protect the linchpin between a great season OR losing to a horrible vandy team at home on the way to a 5 game losing streak.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:09 am to MNW
nobody knows more about MSU's athletic budget than OM. just ask them. they are locked-in.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:22 am to NickPapageorgio
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I've seen 22 million.
Top spenders are 35 to 50 million.
And you're incorrect, but that understandable. You're inclined to believe the lowest number you hear for state and the largest you hear for OM.
But at what point do you cut bait? if your logic is true, nobody besides the team with the biggest NIL budget should ever fire their coach.
We got embarrassed by a conference opponent that has not beaten us at home since 1971. We were more talented and spent more, and were pretty clearly under motivated and out-coached. That's all on Lebby.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:53 am to Lonnie Utah
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Lebby can't help that Kamario got hurt. If he says healthy State has a totally different season.
Thats a hard maybe.
Maybe there is more tape and teams shut him down like Chambliss and Simmons.
I still think state this year is than last year without Kamario, they look lifeless.
Either his team gave up after Kamario, or it sucks that bad.
Neither of which is acceptable
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:54 am to MNW
I haven't searched out a low number.
Maybe the estimates are way off. I dont know.
I do know this is the estimate at the top of a Google search.
LINK
So estimated at dead last in the SEC.
Of you cant put 40k in the stands for an SEC game then why would you expect to win vs Vandy?
The fans and donors are States biggest problem right now. Not coaching.
Maybe the estimates are way off. I dont know.
I do know this is the estimate at the top of a Google search.
LINK
So estimated at dead last in the SEC.
Of you cant put 40k in the stands for an SEC game then why would you expect to win vs Vandy?
The fans and donors are States biggest problem right now. Not coaching.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 11:58 am to BigHorn69
I can understand the frustration of State fans with this news, but I also think Kamario Taylor is a generational player and you have to do what you believe is best to take advantage of that. If he and his family feel more comfortable having Lebby coaching him next year and not having to learn a new system, that was the end of the discussion. You can't waste his talent or risk him getting frustrated and leaving. What do you think happens if you fire him and Lebby gets hired by Kiffin, Ryan Day, or Kirby? At the end of the day, Lebby and Kamario returning together is the best chance for State to make the playoff next year and then you ride that momentum to get more donations and improve recruiting. If it's still a struggle you can fire Lebby next year.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:02 pm to rebsfan10
They should blow it all up.
Lebby can go back to OU and take the best players with him.
State can start over.
I like it.
Lebby can go back to OU and take the best players with him.
State can start over.
I like it.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:11 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:Losing some production is expecting but the team absolutely cratering in all 3 aspects of the game should never happen regardless of how good the player is.
Lebby can't help that Kamario got hurt. If he says healthy State has a totally different season.
Yes, State with a healthy Kamario is more competitive and may beat a few teams they lose to. In no way shape or form should they be losing to that terrible Vandy team at home though. The score doesn’t show just how dominant Vandy was on Saturday night.
He will get another year because of Kamario but it’s the same mistake Ole Miss made with Matt Luke. You do not let players who are going to be there 1-2 more years at most make 4-5 year coaching decisions.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:11 pm to anc
Good
It would be asinine to make a change. Lebby is the best coach y'all have had, not named Leach, since the dude who let his wife kiss all the players.
It would be asinine to make a change. Lebby is the best coach y'all have had, not named Leach, since the dude who let his wife kiss all the players.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:17 pm to RawDog84
quote:We went 11-1 in the regular season and didn’t get in because of a tiebreaker against a team we didn’t play. We were 2 minutes away from the national title game. I’d say we’ve done pretty well.
So if Ole Miss is a top spender, how have they never made the SECG?
If only we had an 8-5 season 30 years ago that included getting our backs blown out by Texas in the Cotton Bowl. Then we would have something to hang our hats on
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:37 pm to NickPapageorgio
NYT/Athletic did a pretty deep dive on this stuff and this is what they came up with.
Again, we're not at the top in spending, but we're definitely higher than the results on the field, especially considering the State team I've seen over the last 4 weeks couldn't stay on the field with any other team on this graph.
It's pretty clear you haven't watched any State football post-Kamario
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:55 pm to MNW
I just saw the team not give up and keep fighting Saturday in front of empty stands.
They give more effort than the fanbase. The players might be down 14 and without their QB but they haven't quit trying.
Only the fans have quit.
They give more effort than the fanbase. The players might be down 14 and without their QB but they haven't quit trying.
Only the fans have quit.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:14 pm to NickPapageorgio
Not me, unfortunately, I was there until the end.
I saw a team get beat in every facet of a game, despite this seasons injuries and struggles, that they were favored to win. The "oh shite what do we do?' look on everybody's faces when they were lining up for the 2-point conversion kind of said it all. Of course Lebby could have called a timeout he had if only a few more people had been there with me and donated another million dollars.
Lebby is/was a great OC, the scheme is a lot of fun when it's working. He's in way over his head as a head coach.
I won't hear preaching about attendance from an OM fan who Lane Kiffin had to beg to show up last year.
I saw a team get beat in every facet of a game, despite this seasons injuries and struggles, that they were favored to win. The "oh shite what do we do?' look on everybody's faces when they were lining up for the 2-point conversion kind of said it all. Of course Lebby could have called a timeout he had if only a few more people had been there with me and donated another million dollars.
Lebby is/was a great OC, the scheme is a lot of fun when it's working. He's in way over his head as a head coach.
I won't hear preaching about attendance from an OM fan who Lane Kiffin had to beg to show up last year.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:15 pm to rebsfan10
thats where you set the player and the parents down , try to level with them about bringing in better coaches and oline players to protect them
if he leaves he leaves
hell he still might leave after another year of futility
you can't renew lebby without parlaying a future he doesn't have
which risk do you want to take ?
does he love lebby, or msu ? if he's from around the corner maybe he can have some sense talked into him about an upgrade
if he leaves he leaves
hell he still might leave after another year of futility
you can't renew lebby without parlaying a future he doesn't have
which risk do you want to take ?
does he love lebby, or msu ? if he's from around the corner maybe he can have some sense talked into him about an upgrade
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:18 pm to NickPapageorgio
quote:We saw two different things. Except for a few plays after the scoop and score, State’s players absolutely laid down and were giving piss poor effort.
I just saw the team not give up and keep fighting Saturday in front of empty stands.
Receivers half arse running routes, running backs just lowering a shoulder trying to protect the QB, multiple defensive linemen standing up before they even started to rush
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:57 pm to NickPapageorgio
quote:so now, along with your nil bullshite (which is completely inaccurate), we've established you're most definitely a liar.
I just saw the team not give up and keep fighting Saturday in front of empty stands.
head on back over to nafoom, homer.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:57 pm to MNW
Well fire his arse.
Im sure quality coaches will line up to lead the poorest program in conference who fires coaches after 3 years.
Injuries be damned.
I wish they would fire him. Maybe we can grab a few of the good players as they abandon State en mass.
Just kill any sort of hope for next season. I like it a lot.
Im sure quality coaches will line up to lead the poorest program in conference who fires coaches after 3 years.
Injuries be damned.
I wish they would fire him. Maybe we can grab a few of the good players as they abandon State en mass.
Just kill any sort of hope for next season. I like it a lot.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:58 pm to NickPapageorgio
quote:Would never happen in a million years but imagine we got Lebby as OC and Kamario transferred to Ole Miss
Maybe we can grab a few of the good players at they abandon State en mass.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:59 pm to mudshuvl05
They could have quit in the first quarter.
The fans quit before the first quarter.
Fire his arse!
The fans quit before the first quarter.
Fire his arse!
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