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re: State courts have no jurisdiction to issue TROs in conflict with SEC rules

Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:31 pm to
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The reason they are withholding being a threat from the SEC removes the onus from LSU.


Nike can pay NIL whether a player is on LSUs roster or not.

That is the entire argument for players to have NIL. It is a right granted to them before college and after college, and therefore should be permitted in college.
Posted by Thamma513
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:35 pm to
Bottom line is the rules weren't broken. The argument that commenting at halftime, "Imagine if we had pro players." is the weakest argument ever. This is gonna get ugly but nit for LSU if Sankey doesn't back down
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Nike can pay NIL whether a player is on LSUs roster or not.

That is the entire argument for players to have NIL. It is a right granted to them before college and after college, and therefore should be permitted in college.




Barring these players from playing NCAA football limits their NIL opportunities. This has already been alleged in a lawsuit, and that lawsuit was won.

This will be a short turnaround to get their payments once the bring the lawsuit.

Like I said, go ahead and bookmark this for later.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Boy that's a massive stretch. By that measure Albert Pujols should sue every MLB team for not signing him to a $30M contract tomorrow.


I didn't say it'd work, but I didn't think we'd ever pay players either and here we are.

Posted by Tiger2tiga
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:37 pm to
The tro was to allow them to return to college football. It doesn’t have to be the sec.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:46 pm to
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Barring these players from playing NCAA football limits their NIL opportunities.


According to ncaa rules, that cannot be the case. NIL cannot be conditioned on roster spots, playing time, and stats.

And by definition, the players "own" their NIL. As much or as little value is in that name, image, and license cannot be based on the university. It cannot be suited to a school.

Your argument would be tested "by what limiting factor is there for NIL based on play?"
Does a game ejection for targeting limit one's valuation for NIL?
Does academic dishonesty limit one's value for valuation for NIL?
Does rostering a competing position player limit value for a player's NIL?
Do wide receiver drops limit a QBs NIL value?

Who is responsible for NIL based on play and performance and who can be sued for limiting that earnings potential?

If you read the NIL rules, they specifically state that they can't be tied to playing college football. They are only a permissive extension of the player's NIL ownership before and after college.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:58 pm to
This is far too advanced for an LSU fan.

It’s pretty common sense for the rest of us but good luck.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:59 pm to
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This has already been alleged in a lawsuit, and that lawsuit was won.


Except the winning was not a tangible amount of money. LSU forfeited any missed NIL opportunities by leaving them off of the roster spot and then filling it with someone else.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:00 pm to
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According to ncaa rules, that cannot be the case. NIL cannot be conditioned on roster spots, playing time, and stats.

And by definition, the players "own" their NIL. As much or as little value is in that name, image, and license cannot be based on the university. It cannot be suited to a school.

Your argument would be tested "by what limiting factor is there for NIL based on play?"
Does a game ejection for targeting limit one's valuation for NIL?
Does academic dishonesty limit one's value for valuation for NIL?
Does rostering a competing position player limit value for a player's NIL?
Do wide receiver drops limit a QBs NIL value?

Who is responsible for NIL based on play and performance and who can be sued for limiting that earnings potential?

If you read the NIL rules, they specifically state that they can't be tied to playing college football. They are only a permissive extension of the player's NIL ownership before and after college.


Tell that to Diego Pavia
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:01 pm to
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This is far too advanced for an LSU fan.

It’s pretty common sense for the rest of us but good luck.


Diego Pavia won his lawsuit. Meansonny of SECr.com doesn’t have more insight than the judge that ruled in his favor.

It really is common sense.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:04 pm to
Pavia did not receive money from winning the lawsuit.

This is a comparison based upon desperation. LSU could have still given them a roster spot and paid them. As a matter of fact, the Louisiana courts told them to do so.

Harris and Wright’s lost NIL opportunities came at the hands of LSU and no one else. LSU is the one who took the chance. It didn’t work out for them. So it’s up to them to pay up.


And for a fan base who constantly brags about money not being an issue…..your arguments constantly keep money as being an issue. Just man up and pay them. It would give LSU a chance of being the good guy in a situation.

“Lane is players first!” arguments and shite LSU fans have made over the last few weeks. Time to prove that right.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:05 pm to
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Diego Pavia won his lawsuit.


You keep repeating this but continue to ignore the rebuttals.

How much money did the NCAA/SEC have to pay him?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:08 pm to
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You keep repeating this but continue to ignore the rebuttals.


I’ve responded to every one. They’re just wrong.

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How much money did the NCAA/SEC have to pay him?


$0 dollars because the extension of eligibility wasn’t fought. He was allowed to return. Can’t sure for damages if you aren’t barred from earnings, can you?

The money would have come in the form of damages had that extra year been denied, which is exactly what you’re about to see play out with these players.

Hold tight, it won’t take long.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Itmovedalittle
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:09 pm to
The NCAA does... its called 5 for 5
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:14 pm to
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$0 dollars


Interesting

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He was allowed to return.


Which would have been the same outcome of these lawsuits had LSU/Kiffin not fricked it up by both voting that they should not be eligible as well as giving those roster spots to someone else.

I’ll repeat that. LSU voted to keep these players ineligible. That admits fault. They agreed to a financial obligation with the players. They then voted with their governing body that those players should remain ineligible. LSU is solely responsible for any financial damages.



And once again…why are you even bothering to argue that the SEC should play. Money is of no concern at LSU and Lane is a players first guy. Show the world that you’re willing to uphold your agreement. Lane had no problem with LSU paying his Ole Miss bonus. It almost sounds like Lane is really Lane first.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:14 pm to
Research timelines.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:17 pm to
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Which would have been the same outcome of these lawsuits had LSU/Kiffin not fricked it up by both voting that they should not be eligible as well as giving those roster spots to someone else.

I’ll repeat that. LSU voted to keep these players ineligible. That admits fault. They agreed to a financial obligation with the players. They then voted with their governing body that those players should remain ineligible. LSU is solely responsible for any financial damages.




I haven’t once said LSU wouldn’t be sued as well. You don’t seem to understand how onus works is damages litigation.

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And once again…why are you even bothering to argue that the SEC should play. Money is of no concern at LSU and Lane is a players first guy. Show the world that you’re willing to uphold your agreement. Lane had no problem with LSU paying his Ole Miss bonus. It almost sounds like Lane is really Lane first.


These guys don’t have a contract for LSU to uphold, but we will see what sort of compensation LSU offers them. It won’t be nothing.
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 9/8/26 at 11:20 pm to
No Medical Records: The NCAA stated that Ferris State had no documentation of medical treatment, injury reports, or conditions for Chambliss during that time frame.

Competitive Reasons: According to the NCAA, the school cited "developmental needs and our team's competitive circumstances" as the reason Chambliss did not play during the 2022–23 season.

Waiver Denial: Because of the lack of contemporaneous medical records from the school, the NCAA denied Chambliss a medical hardship waiver. [1]

LINK [2] (https://www.wjtv.com/sports/sec-football/ncaa-denies-waiver-for-ole-miss-qb-trinidad-chambliss/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">LINK

Chambliss and his legal team later provided private physician notes, family testimony, and medical history regarding chronic tonsillitis and respiratory issues to a state court, which ultimately granted an injunction allowing him eligibility. [1] - Per WBLT and CNN

You are full of shite

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