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Spin-off: SEC team's records against major conferences since 1970
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:08 pm
*Per request by my brother KSGamecock*
So, I want to preface this by saying I only did what I considered "major conferences" for this data-set. If a school was in any "major conference" during the date the game was played, it was counted. These conferences include: ACC, Big East, Big 8, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-8/10/12, SWC, and SEC.
For more details (how I handled Independents), see the note at the bottom. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer. This was a fun project, which actually took a little bit of digging.
Current SEC school's records vs "Major Conference" opponents
*Sorted by winning percentage
Georgia : 112-44-4 0.713%
Alabama : 85-35-1 0.707%
Tennessee : 85-44-5 0.653%
Auburn : 72-40-2 0.640%
LSU : 79-45-3 0.634%
Florida: 74-62-4 0.543%
Mississippi St: 28-24 0.538%
Arkansas : 36-37-2 0.493%
Missouri : 58-61-3 0.488%
Kentucky : 46-51-3 0.475%
South Carolina: 104-122-5 0.461%
Texas A&M: 50-59 0.459%
Ole Miss: 23-30-1 0.435%
Vanderbilt: 32-45-1 0.417%
**NOTES**
-Conference games are NOT counted at ANY point.
-All games from the following conferences were counted: ACC, Big East, Big 8, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-8/10/12, SWC, and SEC.
-Games against major Independent schools such as Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, Penn St, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Etc. are counted at the time of their Independent “affiliation.”
-Again, I counted ALL SWC (1970-1995), Big 8 (1970-1995), and Big East (1991-2012) games.
-I did not count Louisville from 1996-2004 due to their Conference USA affiliation or from 1970-1974 due to their Missouri Valley Conference affiliation. All other games are counted.
-For Arkansas, South Carolina, A&M and Missouri, all of your games are counted against SEC opponents up until you joined the conference.
-Again, NO conference games are counted at ANY point (Ex: A&M vs Arkansas while both were in the SWC)
-Also, I did NOT count bowl games where SEC schools were matched up against one another. (Ex: 1972 Bluebonnet Bowl, Tennessee vs LSU)
MAJOR EDIT**
The Big 8 conference teams were counted twice in the DB. Win% is a bit off. Will fix in a bit. Apologies.
2nd EDIT**
Fixed win% and reordered teams properly.
So, I want to preface this by saying I only did what I considered "major conferences" for this data-set. If a school was in any "major conference" during the date the game was played, it was counted. These conferences include: ACC, Big East, Big 8, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-8/10/12, SWC, and SEC.
For more details (how I handled Independents), see the note at the bottom. If you have any questions, I'll try to answer. This was a fun project, which actually took a little bit of digging.
Current SEC school's records vs "Major Conference" opponents
*Sorted by winning percentage
Georgia : 112-44-4 0.713%
Alabama : 85-35-1 0.707%
Tennessee : 85-44-5 0.653%
Auburn : 72-40-2 0.640%
LSU : 79-45-3 0.634%
Florida: 74-62-4 0.543%
Mississippi St: 28-24 0.538%
Arkansas : 36-37-2 0.493%
Missouri : 58-61-3 0.488%
Kentucky : 46-51-3 0.475%
South Carolina: 104-122-5 0.461%
Texas A&M: 50-59 0.459%
Ole Miss: 23-30-1 0.435%
Vanderbilt: 32-45-1 0.417%
**NOTES**
-Conference games are NOT counted at ANY point.
-All games from the following conferences were counted: ACC, Big East, Big 8, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-8/10/12, SWC, and SEC.
-Games against major Independent schools such as Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, Penn St, South Carolina, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Etc. are counted at the time of their Independent “affiliation.”
-Again, I counted ALL SWC (1970-1995), Big 8 (1970-1995), and Big East (1991-2012) games.
-I did not count Louisville from 1996-2004 due to their Conference USA affiliation or from 1970-1974 due to their Missouri Valley Conference affiliation. All other games are counted.
-For Arkansas, South Carolina, A&M and Missouri, all of your games are counted against SEC opponents up until you joined the conference.
-Again, NO conference games are counted at ANY point (Ex: A&M vs Arkansas while both were in the SWC)
-Also, I did NOT count bowl games where SEC schools were matched up against one another. (Ex: 1972 Bluebonnet Bowl, Tennessee vs LSU)
MAJOR EDIT**
The Big 8 conference teams were counted twice in the DB. Win% is a bit off. Will fix in a bit. Apologies.
2nd EDIT**
Fixed win% and reordered teams properly.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:12 pm to Sean Bean
Arkansas popping out on the list again. YET-
still not big 6. No matter what i do we are a 7 ceiling :/
still not big 6. No matter what i do we are a 7 ceiling :/
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:12 pm to Sean Bean
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Alabama: 87-36-1 .704% Georgia: 115-47-4 .701% Auburn: 75-40-2 .647% Tennessee: 87-46-5 .642% LSU: 79-45-3 .629% Florida: 75-62-4 .540% Arkansas: 47-41-2 .528%
Big 7
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:15 pm to Sean Bean
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Per request by my brother KSGamecock
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24 threads started
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Member since May 2018
No way this is an alter.
Although I don't technically hate it I suppose.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:16 pm to WG_Dawg
probably a better poster than his main
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:17 pm to WG_Dawg
Or it could be his actual irl brother...
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:51 pm to Sean Bean
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Mississippi: 27-32-1
Mississippi St: 25-32
The 60 or fewer games club. Color me shocked
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:54 pm to Sean Bean
Having trouble coming up with the 45 losses shown for LSU. Is Nebraska maybe counting double because they were in Big 8 and Big 10 somehow? Maybe it is just a good bit of 1s and 2s adding up though.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 12:58 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Having trouble coming up with the 45 losses shown for LSU
LSU is not as good of a program as you guys make them out to be
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:07 pm to Sean Bean
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*Per request by my brother KSGamecock*
Ohhhhh sheeeesh.
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South Carolina: 106-124-5 .456%
With 31 of those losses coming against Clemson in that 47 year span of time.
lol ... this guy is consistent if nothing else.
Anyone every tell the story about us mudholing Clemson in '75 in the Cockpit ... and how they committed to that never happening again after that? Yep, got their big boosters together and started paying for players the next day. A few years later and they won a national championship and then were hit with, at the time, the most serious penalties in NCAA history LINK ... but they dominated the shite outta us with their paid for players and that's really all they ever care about bottom line.
Taterheads will readily admit, the cheating that got them that first title ... it was the best money every spent because they got to keep the trophy and it's been their cornerstone every since.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:08 pm to BreezyDawg
Such a stupid comment. How good LSU is or isn't has nothing to do with it. He's saying he doesn't count 45 losses.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:08 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Having trouble coming up with the 45 losses shown for LSU. Is Nebraska maybe counting double because they were in Big 8 and Big 10 somehow? Maybe it is just a good bit of 1s and 2s adding up though.
FSU and A&M account for 16 of those losses, add 5 losses to Notre Dame and you're quickly up over 20 losses.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:09 pm to Sean Bean
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*Per request by my brother KSGamecock*
You take that back.
KS is my motherfrickin brother.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:14 pm to scrooster
Y'all have the same amount of major infractions in football as Clemson. The only difference is y'all suck at cheating.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:14 pm to Korin
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Korin
What Clemson alter are you?
(did I do that right?)
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:15 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I found most of it. Still one shy though I come up with 44. I am listing them in current affiliations, but only for games that qualify per SB's parameters.
ACC: Syra 1, Mia 1, VT 1, Fla St 7 (10)
Big 12: Bay 1, Tex 1 (2)
Big 10: Wisc 1, Ind 1, Osu 1, Iowa 1, Neb 5, Penn St 2 (11)
Pac 12: Colo 1, USC 1, Stan 1 (3)
Ind: ND 7 (7)
SEC: Mizz 1, SC 1, AtM 9 (11)
What loss am I missing?
PS: Dadgum 90's...
ACC: Syra 1, Mia 1, VT 1, Fla St 7 (10)
Big 12: Bay 1, Tex 1 (2)
Big 10: Wisc 1, Ind 1, Osu 1, Iowa 1, Neb 5, Penn St 2 (11)
Pac 12: Colo 1, USC 1, Stan 1 (3)
Ind: ND 7 (7)
SEC: Mizz 1, SC 1, AtM 9 (11)
What loss am I missing?
PS: Dadgum 90's...
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:20 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Clemson in the 2012 Chick-fil-A Bowl.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:22 pm to Slackaveli
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probably a better poster than his main
No one is better than KS
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:24 pm to Sean Bean
So which independents did you count during the 70s and 80s? For example, there were 29 in 1970, including a bunch of small schools.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:26 pm to Korin
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Y'all have the same amount of major infractions in football as Clemson. The only difference is y'all suck at cheating.
The parallels between Scar and Texas am are staggering.
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