re: SOS of the Big 5 + A&M Since Expansion

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2000, 2001 We played UCLA home and home

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UCLA was 6-6 and 7-4 respectively. Not good.

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2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2018
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Florida St, Clemson, Penn St, Penn St, Michigan, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Florida St, Louisville

Yea, not gonna apologize for any of those.

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2007 FSU was 7-6, 2008 Clemson was 7-6, 2010 PSU was 7-6, 2011 PSU was 9-3 (I'll give you that one), 2012 Mich was 8-5 (meh), 2013 VT was 8-5, 2014 WVU was 7-6, 2017 FSU was 7-6, 2018 UL was 2-10 (C'mon!).

The combined record for the teams you won't apologize for (not including 2011 PSU) was an astounding 53-50, or an average of 6.6 wins and 6.3 losses. These are the teams you're trying to promote as elite?

They're just names.

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You are shaming us for playing Southern Cal in the 1970s? You serious right now?

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No, I'm shaming you for just name dropping. When LSU played USC in the 70s, USC won the national championship that season, they didn't go a measly 6-4-1.

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- 1974 played a road game against a top 15 team.

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Ah yes, Maryland. Powerhouse.

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- 1975 played 4 games against big conference teams

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Know how I know you're running out of gas...? Every year in the 70's LSU played against 4 "Big Conference" teams OOC. (Well, to include Big Independent teams like Notre Dame and FSU)

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- 1979 played a home game against a top 15 team.

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Ah yes, Baylor, whom Alabama beat 45-0. Awesome competition there.

Did I point out that in the same year, 1979, LSU played both 11-0-1 USC, and 11-1 FSU (not to mention 12-0 Alabama)?

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Again, your argument is ridiculous.

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Perhaps, but your counter-examples are pathetic.

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If someone said "Alabama historically has played the hardest schedule of anybody"?

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To be fair, I was originally responding to the statement, "til last year Alabama always played a great OOC opponent to start the year." Hell, "til last year" Alabama didn't always have a great OOC opponent on the schedule, much less start the season with one.

You just happened to latch onto my one statement, "All my life Alabama has been criticized for weak OOC schedules" (and didn't even address the Vandy-padding ). Hey, maybe the criticism wasn't justified, but the statement I responded to was just flat out wrong.

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But scheduling is a crap shoot. All you can do is schedule names.

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But that's not what's going on ITT. We're talking about quality of OOC competition year in and year out. FSU wasn't a name in the late 70s, they were just beating the shite out of most teams after 1976. They weren't a name until the late 80s, but they were finishing in the top 25 most of the time, and they were on LSU's OOC schedule.

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Last 19 Seasons
Top 5 Teams Played : Alabama 3, LSU 1
Top 10 Teams Played : Alabama 4, LSU 3
Top 25 Teams Played : Alabama 8, LSU 7

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Now I think you're onto something. If you do total (SEC and OOC) t-5, t-10 and t-25, you may see Alabama falling behind. You say Bama can't play Bama, true, but they should be making up for it OOC. LSU has to not only play Bama, but UF x-div as well. Because Bama can't play themselves, they need to do better than DUKE. I think that's one of the main points of the thread.

..or it was a main point.

...or I thought it was, anyway.

Always a pleasure, George.

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Because Bama can't play themselves, they need to do better than DUKE. I think that's one of the main points of the thread.

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AMEN!

I knew yrs ago when I looked at the schedule with Duke in the opener Bama would get drug through the mud for it. IMHO, there's just no excuse for Duke as you OOC competition. I think the Bama Admin has made up for it though, the future OOC opponents look strong right now. Who knows what they'll look like when we play them?

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No different from y'all playing Syracuse.

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It misses the point.

If I can boil it down without getting too repetitive...

LSU and Auburn have to play Alabama and generally a ranked team as the x-div game. Bama can't play Bama, and they get to play Vandy every year from the East. I believe that is the disparity that BMFKyle was implying. In order to make up for that disparity, some people may think that Bama should try harder to schedule better quality OOC competition than other SEC teams - if not outright change the SEC scheduling format to rotate teams more frequently.

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they get to play Vandy every year from the East

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Well this is just an all out untruth.

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Auburn:
#1 Clemson (2016)
#2 Georgia (2017)
#4 Clemson (2017)
#5 Georgia (2012)
#7 Georgia (2018)
#9 Georgia (2014)
#11 Clemson (2012)
#13 Washington (2018)
#18 Kansas State (2014)
#23 Vanderbilt (2012)

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That is insanity