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re: So what do we KNOW about Schiano?
Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:45 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:45 pm to East Coast Band
yes if they don't disavow them then yes they are, their fans are mostly pedos
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:45 pm to East Coast Band
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So, everyone associated with Penn State circa 1980s and 90s is guilty by association?
Yep
Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:45 pm to East Coast Band
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So, everyone associated with Penn State circa 1980s and 90s is guilty by association?
If they knew about it and did nothing, yes.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:46 pm to Clutch Cargo
It's all hearsay off based on what that ginger assistant said
Posted on 11/26/17 at 5:49 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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It’s really unfair to the guy to label him a Sandusky enabler if it’s not known whether he actually was.
fair or not, public perception matters. This isn't a court of law, it's a hiring. If an employer thinks his being an employee is bad for public perception and will adversely affect their bottom line, then he shouldn't be hired.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:07 pm to HarryBalzack
So basically this is the story right:
McQueary testified in a deposition that he approached this other coach, Bradley, about the situation he witnessed. Bradley told him that he knew another coach who said he saw something years ago, and Bradley identified that coach as Schiano. McQueary does not appear to know anything from his own experience about what Schiano saw or didn't see, but was told Schiano saw something by this Bradley guy So its a secondhand-sort of thing, which you sort of have to take with a grain of salt in most cases.
I'm no lawyer but I don't know if something like this would be admissible as evidence if you are trying to figure out what someone witnessed or knew. It does have a hint of hearsay to it. Idk why McQueary would lie, or the Bradley fellow, but its not airtight evidence to a certainty that Schiano did anything wrong. Its McQueary saying "This guy Bradley told me that this other guy Schiano told him that he [Schiano] saw something"
That being said, the story still stands there regardless of verification and it doesn't look great. The optics are pretty bad on this and I understand UT fans anger. I do wonder, if Schiano was more successful as a coach, what the approach or attitude towards this situation would be.
McQueary testified in a deposition that he approached this other coach, Bradley, about the situation he witnessed. Bradley told him that he knew another coach who said he saw something years ago, and Bradley identified that coach as Schiano. McQueary does not appear to know anything from his own experience about what Schiano saw or didn't see, but was told Schiano saw something by this Bradley guy So its a secondhand-sort of thing, which you sort of have to take with a grain of salt in most cases.
I'm no lawyer but I don't know if something like this would be admissible as evidence if you are trying to figure out what someone witnessed or knew. It does have a hint of hearsay to it. Idk why McQueary would lie, or the Bradley fellow, but its not airtight evidence to a certainty that Schiano did anything wrong. Its McQueary saying "This guy Bradley told me that this other guy Schiano told him that he [Schiano] saw something"
That being said, the story still stands there regardless of verification and it doesn't look great. The optics are pretty bad on this and I understand UT fans anger. I do wonder, if Schiano was more successful as a coach, what the approach or attitude towards this situation would be.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:14 pm to higgs_boson
The taint is enough to not hire him that's for sure. I'd say the bigger deal though is his overwhelming reputation as an a-hole.
For Tennessee SJWs to come out marching and painting the rock over what one guy said about Schiano is a bit extreme that's all I'm saying and I think other potential hires will take pause after they consider the den of lions they'll have to work in.
For Tennessee SJWs to come out marching and painting the rock over what one guy said about Schiano is a bit extreme that's all I'm saying and I think other potential hires will take pause after they consider the den of lions they'll have to work in.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:16 pm to LuciusSulla
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how in the world is being outraged over someone who possibly looked the other way at a pederast anything like supporting something like intersectional feminism, kyriarchy, or the other ideology that comes along with it?
It’s a bunch of ignorant people screaming and shouting over something they have no knowledge of, other than social media.
Ironically, Clay Travis would normally be the first to point out that nothing but hearsay points to Schiano as having any knowledge about the Penn State scandal. But he didn’t like the Schiano hire for football reasons so he was more than willing to help this story gain steam.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:23 pm to heartbreakTiger
Just in their senators
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:26 pm to logjamming
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Ironically, Clay Travis would normally be the first to point out that nothing but hearsay points to Schiano as having any knowledge about the Penn State scandal. But he didn’t like the Schiano hire for football reasons so he was more than willing to help this story gain steam.
There could be some truth to this. The whole thing is the definition of hearsay. It wasn't that Schiano told McQueary anything. Bradley told McQueary that it was something Schiano told him. Both Bradley and Schiano deny it.
Let's remember this: this has been in the public domain for over a year. Have Ohio State fans been kicking and screaming for Schiano to be fired since this came out?
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:31 pm to East Coast Band
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So, everyone associated with Penn State circa 1980s and 90s is guilty by association?
Absolutely. Joe knew. Jay Paterno knew. The whole Paterno family knew what was going on. It wasn’t a secret. They covered up Homosexual Rape to try and preserve wins on the football field and a legacy. A bunch of sick folks up in Happy Valley. Joe Paterno was a fraud.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:40 pm to wertheimer
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So basically this is the story right: McQueary testified in a deposition that he approached this other coach, Bradley, about the situation he witnessed. Bradley told him that he knew another coach who said he saw something years ago, and Bradley identified that coach as Schiano. McQueary does not appear to know anything from his own experience about what Schiano saw or didn't see, but was told Schiano saw something by this Bradley guy So its a secondhand-sort of thing, which you sort of have to take with a grain of salt in most cases. I'm no lawyer but I don't know if something like this would be admissible as evidence if you are trying to figure out what someone witnessed or knew. It does have a hint of hearsay to it. Idk why McQueary would lie, or the Bradley fellow, but its not airtight evidence to a certainty that Schiano did anything wrong. Its McQueary saying "This guy Bradley told me that this other guy Schiano told him that he [Schiano] saw something" That being said, the story still stands there regardless of verification and it doesn't look great. The optics are pretty bad on this and I understand UT fans anger. I do wonder, if Schiano was more successful as a coach, what the approach or attitude towards this situation would be.
So basically a case could be made in Schiano's defense that this is all second hand bullshite and it's ruining his career. If it we're true how the hell is he even a d coordinator at Ohio St.? Everybody else on that Penn St. staff is totally toxic and unemployable at any decent sized school. Urban Meyer may be shady but I can't believe even he would hire someone who enabled a pedophile.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:42 pm to Eli Goldfinger
We know... he will not be the UT Coach
#Notmyheadcoach
#Notmyheadcoach
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:45 pm to BuzzSaw 12
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Urban Meyer may be shady but I can't believe even he would hire someone who enabled a pedophile.
I would give Schiano the benefit of the doubt before Meyer.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:55 pm to BuzzSaw 12
quote:I wouldn't put anything past Urban Meyer.
Urban Meyer may be shady but I can't believe even he would hire someone who enabled a pedophile.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:30 pm to 14&Counting
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It's all hearsay off based on what that ginger assistant said
He's not going to jail. He's just not getting hired.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:30 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Above & beyond the Sandusky matter, back when he was the HC at Rutgers, according to an article in S.Illustrated, NFL scouts were close to boycotting his practices because of the way he treated them. He restricted them to a very small part of the field, off the beaten track, severely limited their individual contacts with his players, and was "extremely arrogant towards them". And then in the NFL, he was mocked openly by his players & eventually virtually run off. He sucks as a coach,too. ( no pun intended)
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:31 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Ohio State thoroughly vetted him when he was hired. There is no way that tOSU hires anyone with a hint of scandal.
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:36 pm to higgs_boson
If it were a real problem or true he wouldn’t be the D coordinator at OSU
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:12 pm to higgs_boson
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Why would the MCQueary perjure himself over that?
McQueary never had first hand knowledge of that. He was repeating someone else. McQueary and Schiano were never on the same staff.
I have no idea what Schiano knew, but basing it on what McQueary heard thirdhand is just stupid.
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