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So this is how Cam Newton and Father got off easy...
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 8:58 am
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It was prominent and polarizing enough that NCAA president Mark Emmert, speaking at the governing body's annual convention Thursday, called for new rules ensuring that parents can't "sell the athletic services" of their children.
"If you look at the Newton case, a lot of people came away from that, because it's a complicated case, saying, 'Gosh, it's OK for a father to solicit money for the services for his son or daughter?' " Emmert told reporters afterward. "The answer to that is no, it isn't. But we don't have a rule that makes that clear."
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Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:01 am to tigerbill002
Come on Mark, it is called cheating.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:02 am to tigerbill002
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But we don't have a rule that makes that clear."
And my understanding is that they have no intention of creating one.
Emmert is a spin doctor and major prick.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:02 am to tigerbill002
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Emmert told reporters afterward. "The answer to that is no, it isn't. But I DIDN"T HAVE THE BALLS TO ENFORCE IT
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:05 am to Bandits
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Come on Mark, it is called cheating.
Everyone knows Simpson committed murder, but "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit"
In a court of law (or any judicial source) will normally throw out any case if there is any doubt. As long as $cam and his father keep claiming that $cam didn't know and played no part, nothing will be done. It's about the only alibi they have.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:09 am to Tiger Ryno
I wonder if there is a rule for Not-for-Profit organizations giving kids money.
I can just visualize boosters from a school or from many schools "Donating" money to a NFP organization. Remember that donations are usually cash, not traceable, not taxed, and most importantly anonymous.
Then that organization decides which members of its organization (HS athletes), need to be helped to make it through tough times.
I mean its all about helping those in need right. And who needs more help ($$$$,IPOD,Cars,Free Apt. Rent) than poor HS kids (football players) trying to overcome there situation.
cough...Sean Nelson....Cough, cough
I can just visualize boosters from a school or from many schools "Donating" money to a NFP organization. Remember that donations are usually cash, not traceable, not taxed, and most importantly anonymous.
Then that organization decides which members of its organization (HS athletes), need to be helped to make it through tough times.
I mean its all about helping those in need right. And who needs more help ($$$$,IPOD,Cars,Free Apt. Rent) than poor HS kids (football players) trying to overcome there situation.
cough...Sean Nelson....Cough, cough
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 9:11 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:32 am to tigerbill002
i've been a rabid college football fan for over 30 years. i've had season tickets for 11 years.
this situation is seriously making me consider giving up college football. if the ncaa isn't going to have rules and enforce them, what's the point. every season is going to be a sham like this one.
(even if i do give it up, i'm hanging on to the season tickets)
this situation is seriously making me consider giving up college football. if the ncaa isn't going to have rules and enforce them, what's the point. every season is going to be a sham like this one.
(even if i do give it up, i'm hanging on to the season tickets)
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:34 am to tigerbill002
Good ole ambiguity, huh ? You could poll the native tribes in the Brazilian Rainforest and get a majority that know what Cecil Newton did is against NCAA regs. One hell of a deflection if you ask me.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:42 am to tigerbill002
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I wonder if there is a rule for Not-for-Profit organizations giving kids money.
What's wrong with telling a player "Come to School X and we'll pay you after you are done, four or five years from now."?
Or, why not threaten a kid telling him if he doesn't come to School X then they will burn his mother's house down?
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:47 am to tigerbill002
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I wonder if there is a rule for Not-for-Profit organizations giving kids money.
Yes there is. Go to www.irs.gov and pull up the Form 1023 application and you will see how it has to be done.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:48 am to tigerbill002
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'Gosh, it's OK for a father to solicit money for the services for his son or daughter?' " Emmert told reporters afterward. "The answer to that is no, it isn't. But we don't have a rule that makes that clear."
USC and the Bush family are wondering about this.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 9:57 am to Godfather1
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USC and the Bush family are wondering about this.
The distinction is obvious: Bush's agents paid up and Mississippi State didn't.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:00 am to Godfather1
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USC and the Bush family are wondering about this.
If Bush had talked to Cal about a pay for play and went to USC instead it would be the same issue. Since Bush went to USC and took money, well he could have gone anywhere and taken money, he was going to be ruled ineligible. If the NCAA finds out that MSU or Auburn paid for Newton then the NCAA could rule him ineligible. Right now we have people mixing up actually being paid and talking about being paid.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:03 am to rangers911
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:03 am to Tiger Ryno
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Emmert told reporters afterward. "The answer to that is no, it isn't. But I've got a money roll in my front pocket that says it is.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:11 am to rangers911
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Right now we have people mixing up actually being paid and talking about being paid.
Not from a common sense standpoint.
Cecil wanted 200k from State, and Cam didn't end up there. This is already established.
Ergo, it stands to reason that Cecil very likely got the 200k (or more) from wherever Cam DID end up. To ignore this is to bury your head in the sand.
They're just gonna follow the money. It's all gonna come out. And when it does there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth on The Plains. So enjoy it now while you've got it.
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 10:12 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:26 am to Godfather1
Emmert says there aren't rules dealing with this, then why did:
1) The NCAA announce that rules were violated
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2) Auburn ruled Cam Newton ineligible
1) The NCAA announce that rules were violated
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2) Auburn ruled Cam Newton ineligible
This post was edited on 1/14/11 at 10:26 am
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:34 am to Dawgs1980
Thats why i dont recognise Auburn as champs.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:35 am to Godfather1
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Ergo, it stands to reason that Cecil very likely got the 200k (or more) from wherever Cam DID end up.
Not necessarily. Obviously he couldn't go to Miss. St. after getting denied on the money.
That doesn't mean Auburn gave them money.
I am not saying Auburn did or didn't of course. I don't know, and none of us know.
I do think Cam should have been declared ineligible because of what his father did.
Posted on 1/14/11 at 10:37 am to SG_Geaux
So why did Emmitt deflect.. He is very good friends with SaBan,,, I am just saying....
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