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re: So Notre Dame will get the “Bama Bye”
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:42 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:42 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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I honestly don't think the Iron Bowl matters at this point for Bama's CFP chances.
The IB would only matter if there is a lot of chaos wiht the other top teams (clemson/nd/michigan/ou).
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Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:44 pm to WG_Dawg
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If bama loses, bama is not going to go to playoffs over clemson/uga/michigan/nd/oklahoma. It's impossible, it's simply not going to happen.
People are making the mistake of looking at it without context. A 1 loss Bama will still be considered one of the four best teams in the country simply because of the season they've had. That's true. But by making them a playoff team, you're also telling other deserving teams they don't deserve to be there.
Though a 1 loss Bama would almost certainly get in over OU, if it came to that. This scenario requires that Clemson/Michigan/ND win out. If one falters, a Bama that lost to UGA will almost certainly be next in line, putting 2 SEC teams in once again.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:49 pm to randomways
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Though a 1 loss Bama would almost certainly get in over OU, if it came to that.
false
OU would be 12-1, big 12 champions, with wins over highly ranked WVU and another ranked team in their last 2 weeks.
Bama would also be 12-1 but no conference championship, losing the last game they played, and losing to the best team they played
I know everyone thinks bama just gets a free pass but they are not going over a major conference champ with the same record.
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This scenario requires that Clemson/Michigan/ND win out. If one falters, a Bama that lost to UGA will almost certainly be next in line, putting 2 SEC teams in once again.
UM or ND are the most likely to lose of those 3. In that case, your finals would be clemson, uga, the other one (UM or ND) that did end up winning out, and OU.
ETA: The only reason people are out of their minds regarding this is because of last year, which is not close to a similar comparison. I guarantee you if OSU only had 1 loss and made the 4th palyoff spot last yera nobody is being so sure that bama gets in even wiht a loss.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:55 pm to WG_Dawg
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The IB would only matter if there is a lot of chaos wiht the other top teams (clemson/nd/michigan/ou).
Whatya mean?
I think they can still lose, those teams win, and then they beat UGA and they'd still be in.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:57 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Whatya mean?
disregard i was thinking of somethign else
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:58 pm to WG_Dawg
I disagree, but this is all highly hypothetical. The committee has repeatedly stated that it considers conference championships if everything else is equal. OU has looked mediocre to bad more than once this season. Bama hasn't. The committee's opinion of Bama is obviously quite high. I suppose a blow-out loss in the SECCG would move the needle considerably, but I doubt the CFP committee is going to slam Bama very hard for a close game with the #5 team in the nation.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:03 pm to randomways
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I doubt the CFP committee is going to slam Bama very hard for a close game with the #5 team in the nation.
it's not about slamming bama, it's about rewarding fellow 1-loss teams that are major conference champions. The committee isn't going to turn to Michigan and say "hey, we know you're 12-1 and won the big 10 and the only loss was week 1 to another playoff team...but man have you seen tua when he's healthy!?" Undefeated clemson and ND are mortal locks to make the playoffs. A UGA that beats bama is a 100% lock for the playoffs (unless we lose to tech God forbid). That leaves 1 playoff spot between several 1 loss teams...most with a major conference title and only 1 without. It's a no brainer.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:04 pm to HTDawg
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Nobody is given second chances like Bama
2007 LSU got in the Title game with 2 Losses.
And those losses were to 5 loss Kentucky and Arkansas teams.
What a Joke!
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:06 pm to WG_Dawg
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it's not about slamming bama, it's about rewarding fellow 1-loss teams that are major conference champions. The committee isn't going to turn to Michigan and say "hey, we know you're 12-1 and won the big 10 and the only loss was week 1 to another playoff team...but man have you seen tua when he's healthy!?" Undefeated clemson and ND are mortal locks to make the playoffs. A UGA that beats bama is a 100% lock for the playoffs (unless we lose to tech God forbid). That leaves 1 playoff spot between several 1 loss teams...most with a major conference title and only 1 without. It's a no brainer.
Um...? I specifically mentioned OU and just as specifically declined to mention Michigan, Clemson, ND, or UGA because I think all of them get in over Bama if UGA beats Bama in the SECCG. I'm only talking about OU here.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:11 pm to randomways
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Um...? I specifically mentioned OU and just as specifically declined to mention Michigan, Clemson, ND, or UGA because I think all of them get in over Bama if UGA beats Bama in the SECCG. I'm only talking about OU here.
Michigan getting in is as much of a do over as Alabama getting in after a loss to Georgia
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:15 pm to Loserman
Follow the money...
If uga beats Bama, both teams are getting in and Either Clemson or UM are getting left out. The turds will generate too high of ratings not to put them in the playoffs assuming a valid argument can be made.
If uga beats Bama, both teams are getting in and Either Clemson or UM are getting left out. The turds will generate too high of ratings not to put them in the playoffs assuming a valid argument can be made.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:34 pm to aujerm
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Follow the money... If uga beats Bama, both teams are getting in and Either Clemson or UM are getting left out. The turds will generate too high of ratings not to put them in the playoffs assuming a valid arguement can be made.
You have it completely backwards.
If it was a money decision then Michigan/or whomever wins the B1G would be in and the loser of Alabama/Georgia is 100% out.
That would be the easiest money making decision the CFP ever made.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:40 pm to Loserman
Not sure I'm following you. Looking at the teams that generate the most national views, you've got Bama and Notre Dame, then there's everyone else.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:48 pm to aujerm
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Not sure I'm following you. Looking at the teams that generate the most national views, you've got Bama and Notre Dame, then there's everyone else.
If Michigan Makes it they would generate more views than Alabama.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:58 pm to Loserman
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Michigan getting in is as much of a do over as Alabama getting in after a loss to Georgia
But they'll literally have the best loss (and close one at that) and will have added a win over OSU, so their resume is better than OU's or Clemson's.
I had no objections to Bama getting in last year. I'm very firmly in the "four best teams regardless of other factors" camp.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 1:59 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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I honestly don't think the Iron Bowl matters at this point for Bama's CFP chances
Agrees, not sure why they're not resting Tua.
Of course, it's Saban we're questioning here.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 2:03 pm to Whataburger
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Agrees, not sure why they're not resting Tua.
Of course, it's Saban we're questioning here.
For one, it doesn't matter only if everything goes to chalk. An upset of one of the top four now or during championship week would mean that Bama's chances of making the CFP dramatically improve even with a loss in the SECCG. But two losses and the landscape would have to be 2007-level insane for Bama to get in.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:08 pm to HTDawg
quote:Did you learn how to get started early with your bitching and crying from the LSU fans?...hell, they've perfected the art.
Is it fair? You're asking that question about Bama potentially missing out on the playoffs? Is it fair that Bama doesn't even have to win their division to get into the playoffs? Nobody is given second chances like Bama. Is it fair Bama always gets the better end of the deal on officiating?
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:14 pm to WG_Dawg
You are the moron that said you weren't worried about the LSU game this preseason. You thought Georgia was just automatically gonna go beat them by four touchdowns in tiger stadium. Not sure how I remembered that and it is irrelevant to the topic of this thread but yeah, there is that.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 3:18 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Is that fair?
They didnt play an FCS team.
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