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Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:25 am to bamawriter
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The playoff is the first system we've had that didn't rely on the wire service polls.
Instead, it relies on the subjective evaluations of a handful of committee members to choose 4 teams that get to play for the "title."
It's all about hype and TV revenue.
Unless CFB goes to a NFL-type playoff, with playoff spots based strictly on objective win-loss criteria, it's still a subjective MNC.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:28 am to BammerDelendaEst
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with playoff spots based strictly on objective win-loss criteria,
Which is impossible given the number of eligible teams and the limited number of games that can be played. You could take only conference champs, but you'd have to eliminate a conference first so that we only have 4 available. Otherwise we're still applying subjective criteria.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:29 am to BammerDelendaEst
quote:They would have to cut alot of teams to have a full playoff.
Unless CFB goes to a NFL-type playoff, with playoff spots based strictly on objective win-loss criteria, it's still a subjective MNC.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:31 am to kjanchild
I don't understand people freaking out about the AP and UPI championships awarded pre 1970's when bowl games were basically just considered bonus games. There were a lot fewer bowl games and not all of the good teams went to bowls every year. The Big 10 only allowed its champion to go a bowl (Rose Bowl) until 1975.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:32 am to Rabern57
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So we taking back Saban's while Bama was on probation?
Bama wasn't on a post season ban probation like AU was. That saved them from a bowl game. Using Randy Savage's logic, OSU played and won their bowl game so they're the real NCs of 1957.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:37 am to Rabern57
quote:Yeah, Auburn bought a lot of votes for their 1957 title.
That was the days of buying votes.
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When the unbeaten season ended with a 40-0 victory over Alabama, sports information director Bill Beckwith feverishly worked the system to ensure that the Tigers had enough votes to secure The Associated Press national title.
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What Auburn didn't do was convince the nation that it was the clear-cut national champion. The Tigers weren't eligible for the UPI poll because of their NCAA probation so Beckwith worked to make sure Auburn ended up on top of the AP poll.
At the time, any AP subscriber was eligible to vote in the poll. Beckwith made sure that smaller radio stations and smaller papers were aware of this, adding in his informational pitch that a vote for Auburn would be greatly appreciated. It was a loophole that the AP quickly closed -- it formed a panel of voters soon afterwards -- but it couldn't change the vote that season, much to the chagrin of Ohio State head coach Woody Hayes, who boldly questioned if Auburn had played anyone of note.
So, Auburn is the reason there is a panel of AP voters.... good job.
And I wonder how much AU paid these small radio stations?
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:06 am to bamawriter
You would have to to re-align conferences (I would say 8 instead of 4) AND enforce at least a rough equality of strength of schedule.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:51 am to 1BIGTigerFan
quote:BINGO!
Just win more and they'll be irrelevant...
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:12 pm to kjanchild
WHO CARES! We have won more than anyone else and are still winning more than anyone else is going to. Old News
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:13 pm to The Sultan of Swine
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FWAA was a major polling organization at the time
It was made of up of 5 people, two of which voted for Notre Dame in 1964.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:26 pm to bamawriter
quote:I agree. Right now bama's national championship count stands at 1
There wasn't really one after it, either. The playoff is the first system we've had that didn't rely on the wire service polls.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 12:28 pm to GenesChin
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Except the Schula years. Even Bama fans know they sucked during those years
We are talking about claiming them, not winning them.
Tide claims all years no matter the record or probation status.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 1:33 pm to jatebe
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So, Auburn is the reason there is a panel of AP voters.... good job. And I wonder how much AU paid these small radio stations? LINK
It wasn't just small radio stations and small newspapers. I had an uncle that owned a garage/service station. He was an AP subscriber and had a vote.
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