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re: Slept in hoover last night

Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by VolsUberAlles
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/27/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Williamson county is the 10th most affluent county in the country.


That’s, uh, not accurate.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6979 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:31 pm to
Anti bias training is not critical race theory.

Ps. Back up off the Brook.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:44 pm to
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Patton Creek and the Galleria are doing just fine.

Immigrating liberals are th biggest threat to Hoover, but we just elected our most conservative City Council in the 15 or so years I've lived here and their first school board appointment was an anti-mask anti-school closures proponent, so we're heading in the right direction there. This council will be able to appoint 4 more school board members before their term ends.

As long as we continue to hold back the spread of leftism, Hoover will be just fine.





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Was at the Galleria a few weeks ago, many empty stores and condition of the mall was depressing. Patton Creek is in worse shape.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 4:49 pm to
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That said, the Mountain Brook community has long been one of the nicest and most affluent in the South.




The Homewood area has made great strides in recent years. The downtown projects and the area near the original Saw's BBQ off Oxmoor is becoming a great area. Hoover was just greedy and built for building sake.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 4:51 pm
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6979 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:11 pm to
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The Homewood area has made great strides in recent years. The downtown projects and the area near the original Saw's BBQ off Oxmoor is becoming a great area. Hoover was just greedy and built for building sake.


That area was nice when I first moved to Birmingham. Went downhill for a while, but has rebounded nicely. Would rather go there than anywhere off the top of my head in Hoover. I typically try and avoid Hoover. It feels too much like Atlanta to me.
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1135 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:12 pm to
I stand corrected.

#16 of 3,143 (3,007 counties and 136 county equivalents.

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Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:49 pm to
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Anti bias training is not critical race theory.


Yes, but what Mountain Brook is implementing has critical race theory scattered all throughout it and is 100% influenced and designed by the Anti-Defamation League. If you don't want CRT in Mountain Brook Schools, then you are going to be very disappointed.

It is very telling to me that you changed your tune from "they cut ties with the ADL quickly" to something far more mundane when I pointed out the facts of the situation.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98930 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 5:50 pm to
I lived in Hoover once. It could have been me.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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50410 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

Was at the Galleria a few weeks ago, many empty stores and condition of the mall was depressing.


Not sure what you're seeing here. The office tower is completely occupied, and the mall is pretty occupied too. The old Sears store is vacant, so that makes it seem more empty than it actually is. That store closed in October 2019, and obviously nothing was going to open there during the 2020 COVID year, but I'm willing to bet something will be occupying that spot by this Christmas shopping season.

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Patton Creek is in worse shape.


Patton Creek is due to poor management. No other way to put it. They're trying to charge too much for those spots. Given the success of other developments in the area, it's clear the demand is there. The ownership group just took over management of the property (they previously used a third party to manage it), so hopefully things will change there soon. That said, all of the large storefronts are occupied. There are about 26 small storefronts that need to be occupied though, and I don't think they will be unless and until the ownership figures out they need to do something different.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 6:32 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:03 pm to
Culcha will do that to ya
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11443 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:04 pm to
Beirut is nice compared to Layfette. Baton Rouge? I'd rather stay on the Southern Blvd in Montgomery.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6979 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:08 pm to
As soon as parents found out and started making phone calls, it was addressed. I’m just as alarmed about the shift to the left and crazy activism as anyone, but it wasn’t as extreme at mountain Brook as you insinuated.

This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 6:09 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:14 pm to
All they did was "break ties" with the ADL and keep using the same program. That's basically just lip service. I'd bet the ADL still got whatever money the school system agreed to pay them. Y'all should be demanding they scrap the entire program, start over from scratch, and remove whoever thought this was a good idea in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:14 pm to
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Not sure what you're seeing here. The office tower is completely occupied, and the mall is pretty occupied too. The old Sears store is vacant, so that makes it seem more empty than it actually is. That store closed in October 2019, and obviously nothing was going to open there during the 2020 COVID year, but I'm willing to bet something will be occupying that spot by this Christmas shopping season.


Macy's looks like a Walmart. Kiosks clutter the walkways over deteriorating flooring. Hell, even Starbucks got the hello out of there.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:29 pm to
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Macy's looks like a Walmart. Kiosks clutter the walkways over deteriorating flooring. 


I don't shop at Macy's, so I'll have to take your word on that. Not sure what that has to do with the Galleria though. Macy's can do whatever they want with their store.

The kiosks are annoying for sure, but that point seems to be in opposition to your point about empty storefronts. Malls with no demand aren't usually able to keep kiosks occupied with vendors. I also don't remember a time when the kiosks weren't there, even back to when I was a kid. Is that not normal for malls?

I haven't noticed the flooring problem you mention but I admit I don't usually pay attention to those sorts of things unless they're approaching dangerous levels. I don't doubt that they could do with some updates in that regard.

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even Starbucks got the hello out of there.


This probably has more to do with how many coffee shops are in Hoover. There are 4 other Starbucks in Hoover and multiple local options that are far, far better than Starbucks without the terrible politics. The next time you're in town I would suggest looking up Santos or Baba Java.
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted by carolinaswamper
unincorporated swamp, johns island,
Member since Jan 2013
3142 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 6:40 pm to
better delete this
This post was edited on 6/27/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/27/21 at 7:07 pm to
My point is the clientele has change drastically the last few years. The type of stores and the condition of the stores tell you everything. A lot of overstock companies. Not a place really to shop anymore. The Summit has taken the the demographics of their shoppers from 10 years ago. It is taking the same trajectory as Century Plaza. They better figure it out soon.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:45 pm to
Folks said the same thing with J Edgard Hoover in power and Joe McCarthy having his trials. Public education is doomed to indoctrination.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61085 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 2:54 pm to
So glad I no longer live in that area.
Posted by Hamr4UAnB
Deep in the Dirty South
Member since Mar 2021
50 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:54 pm to
I´ve got to agree with Irons here. Went to the Galleria recently and it´s nothing like it was say 10yrs ago. The actual ¨family shopping experience¨ is gone. The kiosks feel like mini 7-11s, the feel, vibe, clientele, and atmosphere is not family friendly.
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