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re: Since we admit the SEC is no longer the premier conference
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:28 am to bamasgot13
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:28 am to bamasgot13
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What conference is the premier conference then?
quote:all honest people.
who admits that?
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Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:35 am to Fan of Football
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by Fan of Football "LSU Fan"
Teams like State and the East dragging everybody down with them
Hmm, lost to a middle of the road B10 team but it's the other teams losses dragging the down the conference.
Shirley, you serious?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:36 am to Roaad
CFB is full of parity, put Bama aside and what team would you put money on winning the whole thing? It's still the best, but by default. It's Bama and then there's everyone else.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:36 am to skrayper
quote:why does everyone think this is blaming Bama?
Alabama played:
USC (perennial power, was expected to be good this year, might still be)
WKU (finished 12-2 and ranked last year)
Chattanooga (breather opponent)
Tennessee & Kentucky from the East (according to media outlets, the best and worst teams from the East... maybe?)
SEC West
That's not "weak". If the conference blows this year, it certainly isn't Alabama's fault
If it wasn't for Bama, we would be the B12.
quote:that has been the excuse for weak ooc scheduling.
Excuse for what, exactly?
As far as the rest of your post, stop being insecure. I am not blaming Bama.
What I am saying is that a 1-loss Bama should not be given a pass over a 1-loss ACC, B10, or P12 school. . .by virtue of the SEC. SEC is no better than those conferences.
We have:
1 really good team.
4 decent teams
3-4 mediocre teams
3-4 awful teams
Just like all the other conferences.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:37 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:out of the SEC?
put Bama aside and what team would you put money on winning the whole thing?
none.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:39 am to Roaad
Yeah, that's what I meant. There are no teams in the SEC (aside from Bama) that are head and shoulder pads above teams from other conferences. Think back to 2011, the SEC had 2 all timers, 1 very good team (arky) and a lot of depth. Not the case anymore.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:42 am to Roaad
Alabama wants to play the 9 game conference schedule to make it better but the other SEC schools refuse to jump on board.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 10:57 am to bamasgot13
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Since we admit the SEC is no longer the premier conference
who admits that? We are 2 weeks in. I don't admit that yet. What conference is the premier conference then?
As said it is too early to make these statements, but you could argue the top of the B1G is better so far. Going into the season Wisky was EXPECTED to be an 8-4 or 9-3 squad, while LSU was EXPECTED to be 10-2 or better. A lot will be learned next weekend when OSU plays OU and MSU plays ND, 2 real teams with real players. Michigan plays an improved Colorado as well (not a good Colorado).
I think right now a good case could be made the B1G 1-5 is better than the SEC 1-5, but still think the 14 teams down the SEC is better
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:02 am to TulaneFan
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The SEC is still the deepest conference and has the best team in the land. I think it's a bit premature for anyone to write them off because they had one bad week.
The SEC is the best conference in College football. The Gap isn't as big as it was in 2009. The Golden Age of the SEC football started to end when Bama started dominating college football again.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:18 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:I agree with that.
Yeah, that's what I meant. There are no teams in the SEC (aside from Bama) that are head and shoulder pads above teams from other conferences. Think back to 2011, the SEC had 2 all timers, 1 very good team (arky) and a lot of depth. Not the case anymore
Basically from 2011, going back years, you could argue that the 2nd and 3rd teams out of the SEC could also have won the BCS.
I look at both LSU titles in the era.
UGA and AU could have beaten OU in 2003.
Half the SEC would have destroyed OSU in 07.
I look at last year. Only one SEC team would have beaten Clemson. Sad.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:24 am to Roaad
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What I am saying is that a 1-loss Bama should not be given a pass over a 1-loss ACC, B10, or P12 school.
I imagine, in that scenario, how everything else shapes up.
If our 1 loss is a close, OT loss to a top 25 team (even on the lower end) and their loss is a blowout or to some 5-7 team, then we still get in.
If we suffer the humiliating loss and theirs is the close, OT to a good team, then they get in and we get left out.
That said, I don't think Alabama got in over other teams the past two years only because "SEC". There were plenty of other factors as well.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:24 am to Roaad
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Half the SEC would have destroyed OSU in 07.
Do you mean January 2007 or January 2008 (I hate both those games). The game where LSU won it was a game where mistakes (made by LSU early and OSU throughout the 2nd-4th) really had momentum going. In the 3rd i believe OSU was down 10 with LSU punting when they had a personal foul inside the LSU 30. LSU gets 15, goes on to score a TD, and game is basically over.
Those plays happen in big games, and that is often the type of thing that ends a game one way or another. I don't think more than 2-3 teams in the SEC had teams capable of doing what LSU did in 2007
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:32 am to Roaad
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UGA and AU could have beaten OU in 2003.
Georgia maybe, but AU? Weren't they something like 8-5 that year?
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:36 am to Roaad
The issue with 03 is USC got screwed out of playing LSU. Georgia needed OT to put away Purdue don't see them beating OU or USC same goes for the 8-5 Auburn Tigers. The Trojans shut them out at Jordan-Hare that year. Oddly enough that probably cost them a shot in 04.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:45 am to lsufball19
If only one team in your division is bad I think that's pretty good. The worst team in the west beat probably the fourth best team in the East.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 11:51 am to WithaRebelYell
We're just glad we could help
Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:00 pm to rtr1986
quote:+1 They fricking refuse to go to a 9 game conference schedule, they've everyone voted that shite down.
Alabama wants to play the 9 game conference schedule to make it better but the other SEC schools refuse to jump on board.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:24 pm to RT1941
How would that halt the weak ooc argument.
Go to 9 conf games, and you won't see Bama/USC , LSU/Wisky, TAMU/UCLA, or Arky/TCU
Seems to me that it would diminish the power/prestige of the conference even further.
Go to 9 conf games, and you won't see Bama/USC , LSU/Wisky, TAMU/UCLA, or Arky/TCU
Seems to me that it would diminish the power/prestige of the conference even further.
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:35 pm to Nuts4LSU
quote:basing it more on the following year, where they went 14-0.
Georgia maybe, but AU? Weren't they something like 8-5 that year?
I bet the 8-5 team beats OU
Posted on 9/12/16 at 1:39 pm to UKWildcats
Sorry dude basket ball season will be here soon.
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