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re: Since H2H doesn't matter, why not just crown the 1 seed of the CFP the National Champs?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:21 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:21 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
I make a lot of sense. Head-to-Head doesn’t matter.
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:25 pm to Oklahomey
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:28 pm to Oklahomey
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Alabama has dominated their schedule since losing to Texas.
No, they haven’t.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:54 pm to Lolathon234
What you’re hearing (or should be) is that Alabama has - and will continue to have if both teams win out - a better resume than Texas. Pretty straightforward.
Bama beat currently ranked #12 Ole Miss, #14 LSU, and #21 Tennessee.
UT beat #19 K-State (who lost to an unranked Iowa State team, and may drop out of the top 25) and #8 Alabama
In this scenario Bama would add a win vs #1 UGA and UT a win vs #20 Okst.
Bama would have 4 top 25 wins vs UT’s 3 (maybe 2) and have 3 top 15 wins vs 1 for UT.
So Bama has more quality wins.
UT lost to the #13 team. Bama lost to #7.
So Bama has the better loss as well.
Better wins, better loss equals a better resume and should be voted ahead of UT
Bama beat currently ranked #12 Ole Miss, #14 LSU, and #21 Tennessee.
UT beat #19 K-State (who lost to an unranked Iowa State team, and may drop out of the top 25) and #8 Alabama
In this scenario Bama would add a win vs #1 UGA and UT a win vs #20 Okst.
Bama would have 4 top 25 wins vs UT’s 3 (maybe 2) and have 3 top 15 wins vs 1 for UT.
So Bama has more quality wins.
UT lost to the #13 team. Bama lost to #7.
So Bama has the better loss as well.
Better wins, better loss equals a better resume and should be voted ahead of UT
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:57 pm to Lolathon234
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How is Bama beating Georgia but UGA being ranked higher in the CFP any different from Bama being ranked higher than Texas?
Play, entitled Alabama fan base will always contort the arguments to fit their situation
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:08 pm to GeekedUp
resume only matters when the two teams haven't played or they're in a 3-way tie or some other extenuating circumstances.
It would be two 12-1 conference champions vying for the last playoff spot. The obvious way to determine it is head to head. It's why you play the games. Even the vast majority of Alabama fans understand this
It would be two 12-1 conference champions vying for the last playoff spot. The obvious way to determine it is head to head. It's why you play the games. Even the vast majority of Alabama fans understand this
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:13 pm to Lolathon234
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Since H2H doesn't matter, why not just crown the 1 seed of the CFP the National Champs?
I don’t know of anyone who says H2H doesn’t matter. I think that is all a concoction of an insecure mind. Now does it matter SOME? Yes but it isn’t the only consideration. Because if H2H was the only thing that mattered then Oklahoma should just be considered better than Texas then because THEY BEAT YOU H2H!
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:22 pm to Crimson1st
If they had the same record, yes.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:26 pm to Lolathon234
quote:Who said that?
Since H2H doesn't matter...
The only thing that I've got a problem with is a championship is awarded to the best team at the end of the year. I suspect that Texas is better than they were in their 2nd game of the season, and I KNOW Alabama is, so the committee's job is to decide who the best four are at the end of the season....right?
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:31 pm to Lolathon234
Blah, blah,blah… colt mccoy
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:32 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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resume only matters when the two teams haven't played or they're in a 3-way tie or some other extenuating circumstances.
Disagree. Washington barely escapes Washington St. yesterday. Do I think they Washington is only barely better? No, because their body of work says otherwise. Season > single game.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:38 pm to Lolathon234
Is this a pre-playoff selection melt? Don’t worry, I’ve been told Bama has no chance to beat Georgia so all Texas has to do is win out
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:38 pm to GeekedUp
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What you’re hearing (or should be) is that Alabama has - and will continue to have if both teams win out - a better resume than Texas. Pretty straightforward.
this is complete horseshite
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Bama beat currently ranked #12 Ole Miss, #14 LSU, and #21 Tennessee.
yes, but none in top 10
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UT beat #19 K-State (who lost to an unranked Iowa State team, and may drop out of the top 25) and #8 Alabama
19 and 8 vs 12, 14 & 21
pretty damn close
Bama beating Georgia would be impressive; but not impressive enough to overcome the h2h in Tuscaloosa
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Better wins, better loss equals a better resume and should be voted ahead of UT
not under any circumstances, and certainly not with this committee
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:39 pm to GeekedUp
If Bamas resume mattered, they would be 6 instead of Oregon (weakest resume of the top 6) what’s kept them behind at 8 is the HTH with Texas
Posted on 11/26/23 at 7:47 pm to TexasOnTop
Of course H2H matters, but it can't be the only thing that matters. What if, after beating Bama, Texas had lost to Texas Tech instead of Oklahoma? There's more than one factor that has to be taken into account when ranking teams.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:11 pm to TheTideMustRoll
But they didn’t lose to tech. They lost to Oklahoma. So that argument it moot.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:42 pm to TexasOnTop
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If they had the same record, yes.
But wait…you said that H2H is what mattered…so you’re admitting here there ARE other considerations than H2H?
So let me ask you this…if the record is the same and the H2H loser wins their conference title but the H2H winner doesn’t…where are we at then? You are asserting the H2H winner-non champ should be given higher consideration than the H2H loser-champ? Or is now just settled in your vernacular that the H2H winner with the same record should always get the nod?
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:44 pm to Lolathon234
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Since H2H doesn't matter
So you agree Oklahoma should be in the playoff over Texas
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:54 pm to Che Boludo
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project insecurities.
Well, they ARE Texas fans.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:58 pm to Crimson1st
Yes HTH matters when comparing multiple competing opponents (12-1 Bama, 12-1 Texas). I don’t see what is so hard to get about this.
If Texas was 11-2 there’s nothing to compare, they are out of the conversation.
You keep throwing hypotheticals out there and avoiding the current picture (12-1 Texas, 12-1 Bama). Because they have the same record, similar SOS and Texas has the HTH, it goes to Texas.
If Texas was 11-2 there’s nothing to compare, they are out of the conversation.
You keep throwing hypotheticals out there and avoiding the current picture (12-1 Texas, 12-1 Bama). Because they have the same record, similar SOS and Texas has the HTH, it goes to Texas.
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