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re: Since 1992 start of divisions who are the 2nd to 5th best football coaches? Saban easy #1
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:54 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:54 pm to TheFourHorsemen
1. Saban
2. Kirby
3. Spurrier
4. Meyer
5. Fulmer
2. Kirby
3. Spurrier
4. Meyer
5. Fulmer
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 1:56 pm
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:57 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Here’s one metric….
Head Coaches Win% vs Final AP Ranked Opponents (1992-present):
*min 20 games played
*Active Coaches in BOLD
70.00%- Smart, Georgia
69.41%- Saban, Alabama
61.91%- Stallings, Alabama
60.53%- Spurrier, Florida
52.63%- Miles, LSU
50.00%- Meyer, Florida
47.83%- Orgeron, LSU
47.37%- Fulmer, Tennessee
43.48%- Chizik, Auburn
42.86%- Dubose, Alabama
40.91%- Bowden, Auburn
40.43%- Tuberville, Auburn
40.00%- Richt, Georgia
40.00%- Saban, LSU
38.46%- Spurrier, S Carolina
34.62%- Freeze, Ole Miss
33.33%- Donnon, Georgia
32.50%- Malzahn, Auburn
28.57%- Muschamp, Florida
27.27%- Nutt, Arkansas
26.92%- Sumlin, Texas A&M
25.00%- Fisher, Texas A&M
22.50%- Sherril, Miss St
20.00%- Bielema, Arkansas
20.00%- Jones, Tennessee
20.00%- Dinardo, LSU
15.00%- Muschamp, S Carolina
14.29%- Ford, Arkansas
13.51%- Stoops, Kentucky
8.70%- Holtz, S Carolina
7.89%- Mullen, Miss St
6.45%- Johnson, Vanderbilt
4.55%- Widenhoffer, Vanderbilt
4.35%- Mason, Vanderbilt
Head Coaches Win% vs Final AP Ranked Opponents (1992-present):
*min 20 games played
*Active Coaches in BOLD
70.00%- Smart, Georgia
69.41%- Saban, Alabama
61.91%- Stallings, Alabama
60.53%- Spurrier, Florida
52.63%- Miles, LSU
50.00%- Meyer, Florida
47.83%- Orgeron, LSU
47.37%- Fulmer, Tennessee
43.48%- Chizik, Auburn
42.86%- Dubose, Alabama
40.91%- Bowden, Auburn
40.43%- Tuberville, Auburn
40.00%- Richt, Georgia
40.00%- Saban, LSU
38.46%- Spurrier, S Carolina
34.62%- Freeze, Ole Miss
33.33%- Donnon, Georgia
32.50%- Malzahn, Auburn
28.57%- Muschamp, Florida
27.27%- Nutt, Arkansas
26.92%- Sumlin, Texas A&M
25.00%- Fisher, Texas A&M
22.50%- Sherril, Miss St
20.00%- Bielema, Arkansas
20.00%- Jones, Tennessee
20.00%- Dinardo, LSU
15.00%- Muschamp, S Carolina
14.29%- Ford, Arkansas
13.51%- Stoops, Kentucky
8.70%- Holtz, S Carolina
7.89%- Mullen, Miss St
6.45%- Johnson, Vanderbilt
4.55%- Widenhoffer, Vanderbilt
4.35%- Mason, Vanderbilt
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:40 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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MILES had a losing record to Alabama.
But a winning record against Ole Miss...so what's your point?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:06 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Richt was forced out.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:13 pm to DawginSC
Stallings had 4 sec title appearances
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:14 pm to TheFourHorsemen
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MILES had a losing record to Alabama.
So did everyone else in his era. Fulmer had a losing record to Florida
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:14 pm to AUTiger789
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Final AP Ranked
That's the way it's done.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:17 pm to AUTiger789
Proves Stallings is the 5th best.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:38 pm to djsdawg
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Only 1 6 year period in the sec, which was not better then Kirby.
2 SEC Championships and 2 Natty’s > 1 SEC Championship and 2 Natty’s
It’s basic math.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:50 pm to AUTiger789
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26.92%- Sumlin, Texas A&M
25.00%- Fisher, Texas A&M
Posted on 4/22/24 at 5:56 pm to ronricks
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2 SEC Championships and 2 Natty’s > 1 SEC Championship and 2 Natty’s It’s basic math.
Maybe it’s not so basic to you because we all know kirby has 2 sec titles.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:04 pm to djsdawg
Forgot about the second one. I lost track with his 1-5 record vs Saban.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:11 pm to TheFourHorsemen
Over time Kirby could/should become #2, but I’d go spurrier. What he did at South Carolina gives him the edge for now
Posted on 4/22/24 at 6:48 pm to TheFourHorsemen
No Brain Jelly? List is shite!!
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:10 pm to ronricks
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Forgot about the second one.
Urban couldnt even finish in the top 10 3x in a row at UF.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Fulmer was fairly solid as a head coach in the 1990s:
1992: 4-0
1993: 9-2-1
1994: 8-4
1995: 11-1
1996: 10-2
1997: 11-2 (SEC Champions)
1998: 13-0 (BCS National Champions; SEC Champions)
1999: 9-3
Still not as good as Spurrier was, but solid nonetheless
Fulmer was a far superior recruiter and assembler of coaching staffs than he ever was as a X and O mind on gameday. When Fulmer's program was rocking and rolling at its peak Cutcliffe had total reign on the offense. Chavis had the Defense. Fulmer was just there to be a frontman who closed deals in the living rooms of some fricking beastly recruits in the 90s/early 2000s. Those mid/late 90s-early 2000s Tennessee rosters were saturated with future NFL talent at pretty much every position on each side of the ball. Actually probably underachieved by just winning one natty in the year we least expected it during that era.
Like sometimes he would have Peyton Manning handing the ball off to Jamal Lewis and the "scrub" backup Travis Henry at one point. Or other years he'd have John Henderson and Albert freaking Haynesworth anchoring both DT spots together. Coulda easily won more than hardware than he did. Regardless Fulmer was still up there as one of the best head coaches in all of America from like Peyton Manning's career until the 2nd half of the LSU SECCG rematch where we blew another crack at the natty. Us Vols will though will always love him for being the one who brought a football natty back home to Knoxville and for that stretch where his teams beat Alabama like 9 times in 10 years.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:31 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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On another note, Gary Pinkel would probably be top 10. Gary Pinkel was a badass.
Dude did more with less than just about anyone. Mizzou was absolute dogshit when he got there.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:39 am to RollTide1987
As much as I don't/didn't like to admit it, those utk teams were absolutely LOADED with talent in the 90s. He was incredibly corrupt, but he knew how to recruit and evaluate talent. Cutcliffe and Chavis both had good eyes for talent. In terms of pure raw talent, those teams were typically right there with FSU as most talented in the country yearly (probably ahead of UF and Nebraska overall most years... though Spurrier and Osborne were better coaches). I remember being at the games (both in Birmingham/Tuscaloosa and Knoxville) in those years watching the players of both teams warm up before the games and thinking how good they looked "on the hoof" compared to Bama. They really should have won more than they did.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:42 am to DawginSC
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Stallings - 1 SEC title, 1 NC, 3 SECCG appearance
Stallings actually had four SECCG appearances... 92, 93, 94, and 96.
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:50 am to Bama3714
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Stallings actually had four SECCG appearances... 92, 93, 94, and 96.
Coached at BAMA 7 years and averaged 10 wins a season. Got tired of the politics of the day and constant meddling by our AD and rode his Harley off into the sunset.
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