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re: SIAP: Mizzou to cut hundreds of positions amid expected 7 percent enrollment drop

Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Ever heard of Google? Look it up yourself snowflake.



The angst in this reply alone leads me to believe it still is employed there.

ETA: Glad I was wrong since Ridge actually took the time to give a reasonable reply.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:25 pm to
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The angst in this reply alone leads me to believe it still is employed there


She's not. My wife saw her at Lucky's, a local grocery store a few weeks ago though, so she is still around.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10487 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:26 pm to
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It's what they deserve after the SJW shite they've pulled
Goes deeper than this. Remember how they promoted Michael Sam?

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Posted by mitchs3
Member since May 2012
138 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:27 pm to
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ETA: Glad I was wrong since Ridge actually took the time to give a reasonable reply.



Ridge, mitch, whatever. We're all snowflake SJW's to you guys.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Ridge, mitch, whatever. We're all snowflake SJW's to you guys.




Sorry, mitch..got a little ahead of myself I guess.

ETA: And fwiw, it's "y'all", not "you guys." Y'all would help yourselves out a lot if you'd just use our language, ya know. Like asking "Do what?!" and saying "I reckon'" or you're "fixin' to do" so and so...just trying to help y'all up yonder ways out. Also, it's called a "buggy", never a "shopping cart." Just a little Southern Speak 101 for y'all. Since we are so friendly and all down here.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted by mitchs3
Member since May 2012
138 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:43 pm to
Thanks. Got to know your audience.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15232 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 3:58 pm to
Well bless your lil heart.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 4:04 pm to
And my great-grandma, until she died...still called it "The War of Northern Aggression."
Posted by mitchs3
Member since May 2012
138 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 4:16 pm to
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My wife saw her at Lucky's, a local grocery store a few weeks ago


Was she in the seafood department, asking to get "some mussels over here"? [Drops mic]

A friend of mine's son works at Lucky's in COMO. I may ask him over the summer to be on the lookout for her and spit in her coleslaw.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3478 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 4:17 pm to
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Was she in the seafood department, asking to get "some mussels over here"? [Drops mic]


Well done!
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 4:23 pm to
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And my great-grandma, until she died...still called it "The War of Northern Aggression."


Ha...I interchangeably refer it to it as The Confederate War or The War of Northern Aggression...usually the latter, actually. But you have to say it with the proper Southern accent or it just ruins it. "Tha Waaaw of Nawthan Ahhgrayusshun" is kinda-sorta how it should sound.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12881 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 4:48 pm to
Gov Nixon was the gutless leader during the Mizzou SJW debacle, not Greitens.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Ha...I interchangeably refer it to it as The Confederate War or The War of Northern Aggression...usually the latter, actually. But you have to say it with the proper Southern accent or it just ruins it. "Tha Waaaw of Nawthan Ahhgrayusshun" is kinda-sorta how it should sound.


Heh, the funny thing is that particular accent, dying out in the South, is in high demand in England. It is how the nobility over there used to sound before Received Pronunciation.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:08 pm to
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When has Missouri (or really any other state or institution in this country for that matter) ever thrown a bunch of money at education? Our schools in MO are a mess (K-12 and post-secondary) because our state government doesn't care enough about them not to cut funding each year. There is living within your means and there is expecting MU (and again, EVERY K-12 school and public college in Missouri) to do more every year while giving less money.

We're in the midst of one of the better economic booms that our country has ever seen, and somehow in Missouri we don't have enough money to put fuel in our school buses.




This thread is about the University of Missouri, but this one rubs me the wrong way.

Look how much is the right amount to spend on primary education? How much? How much should you pay in admin costs for a school? How many administrators should be employed?

To my eyes this thing is a damned black box that continually demands more and more money. The results aren't any more impressive than in the past, but they sure have a lot bigger campus and a whole heck of a lot more administrators than they did even 20 years ago.

So is this money wisely spent? Or is it a cottage industry which only educates students as a sideline thing?

Got a budget problem? Explain to me how so many schools can have these ridiculous athletic stadiums.

Then what kind of facilities do you actually need for students to learn?

I'm not going to google it, but I read an anecdote by Robert Heinlein once. It was about his father's education in rural Missouri (Robert Heinlein was born in 1907, so do the math).

"My father never went to college. He attended high school in a southern Missouri town of 3000+, then attended a private 2 - year academy roughly analogous to junior college today, except that it was very small - had to be; a day school, and Missouri had no paved roads.

Here are some of the subjects he studied in backcountry 19th century schools: Latin, Greek, physics (natural philosophy), French, geometry, algebra, 1st year calculus, bookkeeping, American history, World history, chemistry, geology.

Twenty - eight years later I attended a much larger city high school. I took Latin and French but Greek was not offered; I took physics and chemistry but geology was not offered. I took geometry and algebra but calculus was not offered. I took American history and ancient history but no comprehensive history course was offered. Anyone wishing comprehensive history could take (each a one - year 5 - hrs/wk course) ancient history, medieval history, modern European history, and American history - and note that the available courses ignored all of Asia, all of South America, all of Africa except ancient Egypt, and touched Canada and Mexico solely with respect to our wars with each."

Come on. I can find other such stories if you wish. And to be fair he did mention his father attended something beyond high school.

I called it a black box. I don't have the right to apply a metric to that box, namely perceived value divided by funds spent, and make a judgement that "you guys suck?"

But I know. The right amount of money to spend is whatever "you" (conflating you with the typical lot who lobby for education funding) say it is. Right?
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15232 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:17 pm to
The post you quoted was in response to my post. Just wanted to say, well done sir, well done.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Heh, the funny thing is that particular accent, dying out in the South, is in high demand in England. It is how the nobility over there used to sound before Received Pronunciation.



Oh, it's still alive and well in this part of South Carolina. I get told daily by other Southerners I have that old Southern drawl all the time. Of course I take it as a compliment.

Too bad we don't have the capability of uploading soundbites here so we could hear what all of us sound like.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25195 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:29 pm to
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h, it's still alive and well in this part of South Carolina. I get told daily by other Southerners I have that old Southern drawl all the time. Of course I take it as a compliment.

Too bad we don't have the capability of uploading soundbites here so we could hear what all of us sound like.


We need to keep that accent alive so hear hear!

Sadly time in the Midwest and East Coast has dulled my accent but my friends in England/Ireland say I sound Southern as can be.

Or, though I declared those were fighting words, Texan.

Granted the actual Irish call people fookers (feel free to translate that) and don't really sound at all like we think Irish people sound.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28052 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:54 pm to
This is good

The Conservative law makers and the Moderates and Conservatives in the state put their foot up MU lefist loons arse.

Now some of the leftist loons will lose their job as well as the grad assistants, who started the whole ordeal. Win, win
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2766 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 5:54 pm to
Since most of you only follow Clay travis who ignorantly thinks this is all because the protests let me enlighten you. Yes the protests hurt, but it is literally the 3rd most relevant factor.

1. We knew this class was going to be small 5 years ago (before the SJW trash) because this years graduating class across the state is smaller than usual. It's the same reason we anticipate a massive increase next year. That idiot will say it's because people are getting over the protests, when it's simply because graduate numbers will be far higher. Higher state grads = higher applications of qualified students = more freshmen.

2. Our new Govenor cut state college funding by $146,000,000! This semester alone we have over $20,000,000+ cut from anticipated state funds. Even though our athletic and overal university giving is higher than EVER, the unanticipated state cuts is what shafted us.

That doesn't make as good of a tweet for clay.
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 6:03 pm to
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Got a budget problem? Explain to me how so many schools can have these ridiculous athletic stadiums.


Well I'm sure you know that the athletic facilities are paid for by folks like you and me who donate to them or go to the games (in college at least, St. Louis has tried to pay for a stadium for the rams but Kroenke wouldnt take my tax money), not state budget dollars.

I don't know what the magic number is in regards to funding primary or secondary students, but I know we spend less money on education than we did in the 90s, and things cost more than they did 25 years ago. I see education dollars as a great investment in our future as a state, but I get that some don't agree.
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