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re: SIAP: Mizzou to cut hundreds of positions amid expected 7 percent enrollment drop

Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:42 am to
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I'm still disappointed that the strike didn't result in Mizzou fielding a team of walk-ons for the last games that year.


Would have made a great "SEC Storied".

They still would have beat Bert.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10170 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:43 am to
Good try? Every college campus in Missouri is faced with increasing tuition or budget cuts from the decrease in funding from the state.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:51 am to
You tried to claim that Governor Greitens is the reason that the enrollment is declining at Mizzou.

Considering he's only been governor for 4-5 months and enrollment has been declining for 2 years, you are a liar.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:51 am to
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MU's administration handled this terribly,
A big thank you to MU's Admin for blazing a path and leaving a clear example of how NOT to handle the situation when faced with similar circumstances.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10170 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:53 am to
Uh, no. I was blaming Grietens for the position cuts. Enrollment drop is expected to increase.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:55 am to
Uhhh well if enrollment drops, then of course positions are going to get cut. That's how things work.

WTF are you talking about?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:56 am to
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A big reason for this is newly elected Eric Grietens.


The inbred that live in the state voted for the guy..
The big reason why your enrollment has been dropping for a 2-3 years is because Gov. Eric Grietens holding office for less than 6 months?
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15232 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:57 am to
Nothing wrong with our governor unless, of course, you like big government. Just sayin'..
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10170 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:59 am to
I'm not blaming the enrollment drop on Grietens..

The 82 million dollar cut in higher education... I am though.

Grietens has so many people in his pocket, it isn't funny.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95904 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:02 am to
It's already happened at other universities and it was handled correctly thanks to Mizzou providing an example of what NOT to do.

So thanks.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:02 am to
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Grietens has so many people in his pocket, it isn't funny.




You better hope REC is one of 'em.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:03 am to
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Uh, no. I was blaming Grietens for the position cuts. Enrollment drop is expected to increase.


Enrollment #'s dropping in excess of 5% for a few years puts you in the red zone, and you are expecting an even greater decrease in enrollment coupled with a decrease in state funding.


Common sense would dictate that you cut jobs/staffing/courses, right?

This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by moloz
The North Shore
Member since Oct 2013
375 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:05 am to
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Mizzou supporters is that the State's population is far more conservative than they thought, I suppose


The fact is, MO is one of the most conservative states in the union. We have the same problem as any other state. College campi and large metro areas are blue voters through and through. Fortunately, we still have enough people with some sense to fend them off at the polls.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:05 am to
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I'm not blaming the enrollment drop on Grietens..

The 82 million dollar cut in higher education... I am though.

Grietens has so many people in his pocket, it isn't funny.


Of course he's going to cut funding when their is a big enrollment drop like Mizzou is experiencing. Less students equals less money/resources. I feel like that's pretty standard.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15232 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:06 am to
And the left doesn't have people in their pockets? Come on man. I have yet to see where constantly throwing more money at education has solved a damn thing. Sooner or later you have to live within your means and not just expect more money from the cash cow. I know you are defending Mizzou here and appreciate it, but we part ways on this subject.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:06 am to
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The failures of your University are not new or recent.


That is true. It has been a mess for a bit. On the plus side, an incident so visual as this should let a good purge happen. Sterk has been doing a lot of work for us too.

As far as down enrollment, I don't care. It is most likely an outlier and if it is not it will push the university to the right. Could be a concern if it stays down but truthfully universities are over inflated with shite degrees and federal student loans.

Fact of the matter is a lot of universities will be having big problems next school year if the highly likely federal budget problem isn't sorted out this fall anyways. United States has been living on borrowed time since the 2008 crash. Quite a few are expecting a government shut down this fall since they don't think they are going to have the votes to increase the budget again. Lots of cuts are on the way.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:07 am to
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I almost - not really - hope one or more of your fine institutions winds up facing something like this one of these days. Yes, MU's administration handled this terribly, but there really wasn't a 'good' way to handle it. This is 2015/2017. Do you honestly believe that you can just 'clear the quad.'

We keep our school clean so there never would've been a poop swastika to begin with.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30216 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:09 am to
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Of course he's going to cut funding when their is a big enrollment drop like Mizzou is experiencing. Less students equals less money/resources. I feel like that's pretty standard.
I fail to see an alternative way to address a severe decrease in enrollment numbers.

Why would funding remain status quo when enrollment numbers have been in a steady decline and are forecast to drop even more?
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:13 am to
wow. you guys suck. My University has put 650MM in new capital expenditures because enrollment is growing so much.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:16 am to
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Yes, MU's administration handled this terribly, but there really wasn't a 'good' way to handle it.


the good way to handle it was not to handle it terribly.

Delicate situation that was going to take sharp and immediate turns based on how the MU admin handled it... results speak for themselves.

Hope we all learned from it.
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