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re: SIAP: Culture from Manziel Era Reason Kyle Allen Left A&M
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:17 pm to 18handicap
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:17 pm to 18handicap
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They didn't drink alcohol,
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Johnny was the worst of all of them.
Know how I know you're lying?
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:19 pm to Dr RC
Had Jake Spavital left to take a head coaching job, Allen would have transferred there.
Frankly, I'm shocked he hasn't left Houston to transfer to Cal already.
Frankly, I'm shocked he hasn't left Houston to transfer to Cal already.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
crap
got mixed up on who was responding to who
got mixed up on who was responding to who
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:26 pm to Dr RC
Allen left because he realized that at A&M the loose culture allows the inmates to run the asylum. It's so funny to see Aggies ripping on the kid when all he did is answer questions that every sports reporter in the country has been beating down his door to ask. He didn't disrespect of flame A&M at all. It's been obvious since the Manziel days that there was a major culture problem in college station and this article should be no surprise to anybody. Sumlin sold his soul to the devil to get recruits and now he is dealing with the repercussions. The "swag" culture at A&M with DJs at practices, the fancy locker room with an graffiti painted barber shop, the helicopter, etc. created an environment where the kids thought they are bigger than the program. Allen simply answered the questions that everybody had on their mind.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:31 pm to MC5601
Allen transferred because he knew Jake Spavital was not being retained, PERIOD.
To claim anything else is solely to flame.
"Team Vote U" has no room to talk.
To claim anything else is solely to flame.
"Team Vote U" has no room to talk.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:31 pm to MC5601
Allen was thinking about transferring his true freshman year b/c Kenny Hill, who had been there for a full year and knew the offense better, was initially named the starter.
I'm sorry but he is not being truthful when he blames the culture for why he left. He wanted Spav as his OC and a guarantee he was the starter and when Sumlin gave neither he was gone.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:32 pm to MC5601
Nah.
Allen committed to Spav, not TAMU. It's pretty clear cut
Nice troll attempt on the rest of your drivel, though
Allen committed to Spav, not TAMU. It's pretty clear cut
Nice troll attempt on the rest of your drivel, though
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Who did Murray commit to? Sumlin has not managed the program well and has allowed egos to take over and rule the team. He is known as a very lax players coach and hasn't instilled any discipline. Seems as if he is looked to as a friend and not a coach which would explain why players seem to have no respect for him. Most people who are familiar with the program have been aware of the cultural issues for some time now. My brother is a Senior at A&M and has been talking about this for 2 years.
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Allen added: “A lot of people were riding off that, ‘I can do whatever the hell I want and win on Saturday.'"
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:37 pm to MC5601
Murray committed to whichever school made more promises to Kevin Murray.
As far as Allen, there's an interview with him from 2013 before it was official that Manziel would declare, in which he said he was not afraid of competition whether Manziel was still there or not.
His actions in 2014 and 2015 have sinced proven that claim false.
As far as Allen, there's an interview with him from 2013 before it was official that Manziel would declare, in which he said he was not afraid of competition whether Manziel was still there or not.
His actions in 2014 and 2015 have sinced proven that claim false.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:38 pm to MC5601
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After being locked in a battle all spring and fall camp, sophomore Kenny Hill was eventually named the starter. With Hill playing incredibly well early in the season and there even being some Heisman talk around him, things did not look great for Allen’s chance of gaining playing time in the near future.
Aggie head coach Kevin Sumlin admitted Tuesday that he and the rest of a staff thought there was a chance that Allen was likely to transfer after the season a year ago.
“I think he left the Arkansas game, quite frankly, when he left that game last year I think he was thinking about going somewhere else,” Sumlin said of the 2014 win over the Razorbacks. “We had a quarterback that was playing at a high level and had just won a game like that.”
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just sayin
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:39 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Murray committed to whichever school made more promises to Kevin Murray.
This, Sumlin screwed Allen over
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:40 pm to rockiee
Spavital screwed Allen over.
Had SPAVITAL not promised Allen he would start in 2014, he would have redshirted and Joeckel would have been the backup instead of transferring to TCU.
Had SPAVITAL not promised Allen he would start in 2014, he would have redshirted and Joeckel would have been the backup instead of transferring to TCU.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:42 pm to rockiee
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This, Sumlin screwed Allen over
to be fair, Sumlin had his hands tied on Murray. If the kid hadn't been the son of the GOAT Aggie QB (before JFF) he wouldn't have been forced to recruit and make promises to him.
Sumlin actually wanted Jarrett Stidham (who ended up at Baylor) from that class.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:42 pm to Dr RC
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I disagree with him blaming the culture for the team's success or lack thereof
So you don't think the culture of the locker room is the problem. Got it.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:43 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Spavital screwed Allen over.
Had SPAVITAL not promised Allen he would start in 2014
So you think Sumlin played no part in that?
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:43 pm to therick711
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So you don't think the culture of the locker room is the problem. Got it.
No, I do not think the team culture is to blame for two kids transferring b/c they were mad they would not get a guarantee they would be the starting QB.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:45 pm to Dr RC
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to be fair, Sumlin had his hands tied on Murray. If the kid hadn't been the son of the GOAT Aggie QB (before JFF) he wouldn't have been forced to recruit and make promises to him.
I actually totally agreed, Sumlin would have had some major damage control if he didn't land Murray. He was in a tough spot without question.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:46 pm to Dr RC
If true, and I don't think any of you have a clue what is really going on, then A&M has bigger issues. The head coach needs to make all of these decisions on personal. You can't allow boosters to run wild in your program.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:48 pm to Dr RC
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No, I do not think the team culture is to blame for two kids transferring b/c they were mad they would not get a guarantee they would be the starting QB.
This is exactly the entitled culture that Sumlin promotes. Kids go there to have ridiculous facilities and be able to run rampant with no fear of discipline because Sumlin is more of their friend than coach. This creates an attitude problem and attracts the wrong kind of players to begin with. A&M is historically a highly disciplined old school program and Sumlin is not a very good fit for the university or a very good football coach. The culture problem starts at the top and can only be fixed by bringing in somebody the players will respect and look up to. Sumlin knows how to be cool in the eyes of 18 year olds but he is not effective at managing and motivating them.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:50 pm to rockiee
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So you think Sumlin played no part in that?
Sumlin has never guaranteed anyone a starting spot. He has always said that "you can earn a chance to play, or even start".
Myles Garrett didn't earn his first start until his 5th game.
Daylon Mack didn't start at all his freshman year.
Christian Kirk and Speedy Noil both enrolled early in order to earn their playing time.
Kyle Allen had an entire spring and STILL couldn't unseat Kenny Hill.
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