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Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach

Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:14 am
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17338 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:14 am
Should the NCAA let kids transfer without penalty if they can prove the a coach lied to them?

For example, it they can show a text or something where the coach assured the kid that his position coach was not taking another job, but then the position coach took another job the week after signing day. Or if the coach promises that they won't take another running back commit, but they sign another RB commit.

On the one hand, it seems like a can of worms that would be impossible to police. On the other hand, we ought not reward coaches who lie to recruits, nor punish recruits who were lied to.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:15 am to
No.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:16 am to
You commit to a school not a coach. If recruits commited to a coach then that's their problem.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:16 am to
Just need to remove the recruiting process all together and have combines and a draft.
Posted by jso0003
Member since Jun 2009
5170 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:17 am to
quote:

On the one hand, it seems like a can of worms that would be impossible to police


It doesn't just seem like that, it IS a can of worms that would be impossible to police.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123594 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:17 am to
Wouldn't be fair

A&M would have the #1 pick every year
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:18 am to
I'd rather let them get out of their LOI's if this happens
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:18 am to
wow. great idea. after I sign, the bidding can continue. if I can "prove" this, i'm gonna start or I head to the press.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17338 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:18 am to
quote:

It doesn't just seem like that, it IS a can of worms that would be impossible to police.


Maybe. But what if I could show the NCAA a text from, say, Gary Patterson ensuring me that the DC will be coaching at TCU next year. In such a case, isn't it the right thing to do to let me transfer without penalty?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46421 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

You commit to a school not a coach. If recruits commited to a coach then that's there problem.


But that's the reality. All those 5 stars aren't committing to Alabama, the school. They're committing to Nick Saban and the Process.

However, this is an injustice that will not ever be solved as it would mean the NCAA admitting that high school athletes choose schools for athletics, not academics (which is the crux of their argument in court ATM).
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
2642 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Maybe. But what if I could show the NCAA a text from, say, Gary Patterson ensuring me that the DC will be coaching at TCU next year.


They would probably just laugh and call you a whiny bitch.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:20 am to
Should be able to transfer without penalty regardless.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27191 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:21 am to
quote:

You commit to a school not a coach. If recruits commited to a coach then that's the problem.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46421 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I'd rather let them get out of their LOI's if this happens


This. Release from what is essentially their contract to the school (and vice versa). Let them reopen their recruitment. However, once they step on campus, the current transfer process would have to play out under the NCAA's current manifestation.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17338 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Should be able to transfer without penalty regardless.


There's an idea! I like it, actually.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

But what if I could show the NCAA a text from, say, Cam Cameron ensuring me that the WR coach will be coaching at LSU next year.


This is what you really meant.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17338 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

This is what you really meant.



Nope. But your paranoia pleases me.
This post was edited on 2/9/15 at 9:24 am
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Should be able to transfer without penalty regardless.



There's an idea! I like it, actually.


I don't. It would become free agency at that point. Good teams would recruit guys on bad teams to try to convince them to fill holes on their current roster.
Posted by MercerBears
Grenada
Member since Jan 2015
685 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am to
ya I agree cause loyalness hard come by pressent day i had ex do me same way shite aint no fun
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 2/9/15 at 9:25 am to
If you want it to stop, make coaches sit out a year if they decide to "transfer" jobs to another FBS school.
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